[Advaita-l] Only a Vedantin can express these words of wisdom
Gopal
gopal.gopinath at gmail.com
Sun Jan 12 11:57:28 EST 2020
Shri Murthy,
Namaskara. You have stated it well. That gave actual relief...
The subtility in Mahaswami's vachana about passionate adherence to the
duality of name and form (a generic noun) as a progenitor of violence
appears to be lost when the word Dvaita (a proper noun) is used. In
general, one can see that passionate adherence of anything could be equally
dogmatic and this gives rise to conflicts and quarrels... this is true even
in the realms of religion and science.
As a disclaimer, on a lighter vein, as someone born in dvaita sampradaya, I
have not seen violent tendency against people of advaita or vishistadvaita
sampradayas amongst my kith, kin and tribal strangers all these decades...
Most probably those aasura sampatthi dvaitins and vishistaadvaitins
(paraphrasing Shri Krishna) have also acquired ability to be invisible...
..gopal gopinath
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 1:22 AM Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Namaste
>
> Yes Dvaita is fanatic but they are also followers of Dharma and Karmas like
> Advaitis. There are small differences only in Karmas like Upanayana,
> Sandhyavandana and so on between Advaitis, Dvaitis and Visistadvaitis. They
> are also vegetarians. They are fanatic at thought level but in conduct they
> are not violent like Mlecchas.
>
> A person following Sanatana Dharma and performing the Karmas of Dharma
> cannot be violent and bloodthirsty.
>
> This is the reason for why they cannot be violent like Islam and
> Christians.
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:14 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Subbu ji
> >
> > That is indeed well-put. Advaita Vedanta fosters accommodating all human
> > beings, even while objectively recognising the limitations in various
> > theologies and belief systems.
> >
> > What is the reason for the following?
> >
> > The Indian dualism (like Sri Madhva's theology) is no less fanatical and
> > theologically obsessed as non-Indian origin dualistic systems like Islam
> > and Christianity. Yet the Indian dvaita systems (thankfully) do not have
> a
> > bloody record of violence and persecution of fellow human beings purely
> due
> > to their religious beliefs, the way bloodthirsty jihads and crusades have
> > been the norm in Islam and Christianity? What is the cause of this almost
> > bovine pacifism of Indian dualism in contrast to the carnivorous appetite
> > of the predatory religions - although both these types are intellectually
> > strongly sectarian?
> >
> > Om
> > Raghav
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Jan, 2020, 8:17 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > "All religious conflicts and quarrels arise because a devotee is unable
> > to
> > > disassociate his conception of God from a particular name and form."
> > >
> > > - Jagadguru Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahaswamigal
> > >
> > > (Source: Thought of the Day - Sringeri Vidya Bharati Foundation, USA)
> > >
> > > The wisdom in the above message encapsulates the entire scriptural lore
> > of
> > > the Vaidika Sanatana Dharma. None other than a Vedantin can grasp this
> > and
> > > express it in such a way. Theological/sectarian schools can never aim
> to
> > > reach these sublime heights of the Vedantin. Their lot is destined to
> > > wallow in bigotry. We see only Advaita Acharyas express such thoughts
> > that
> > > can never be comprehended by those who do not belong to the path of the
> > > Vedanta.
> > >
> > > Om Tat Sat
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