[Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata

[Vidyasankar Sundaresan]

Oh, come off it. You know, sometimes it's better to keep quiet and be
thought a fool than to say something and remove all doubt. It's a pity that
you've been repeatedly choosing the latter option.

Once again, what is your purpose in being on a list that is dedicated to
traditional advaita vedAnta if you have a poor opinion of everyone from Adi
Sankara down? Just to exhibit some bravado daring the moderators to throw
you out?

Vidyasankar

On May 24, 2017 7:44 AM, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> //The criticism of these other schools centers around the fact that none
> of them are independent means to moksha. The same Sankara also accepts
> whatever is right and good in these other schools, subject to agreement
> with the aupanishada teachings.//
>
>
> Once again, reality is different from the above. In BSB 2.2.32, Shankara
> summarily dismisses the entire Bauddha school. He further says that either
> the Buddha is a man who makes incoherent assertions or has hatred for all
> beings.  This, despite the fact that Shankara himself acknowledges the
> closeness of his school with that of the Buddhists in his Mandukya karika
> bhashya!
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:13 PM, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <
> svidyasankar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The criticism of these other schools centers around the fact that none of
> them are independent means to moksha. The same Sankara also accepts
> whatever is right and good in these other schools, subject to agreement
> with the aupanishada teachings.
>
> SrutyanusAra-ananusAra vishaya-vivecanena sanmArge prajnA sangrahaNIyA,
> and paramatam apratishiddham anumataM bhavati, he says.
>
> In contrast, bhakti towards a particular form of ISvara is a key step in
> the jnAnamArga of advaita vedAnta, provided people don't get caught up in
> the ridiculous my God is better than your God attitude. Unfortunately, this
> is a trap that many vaishNavas and Saivas find very difficult to avoid.
>
> Once again, rather than get caught up in superficialities, please pay
> attention to the details. There is a huge amount of material in our own
> list archives as a starting point. That is, if one can put resentment aside
> and read with an open mind.
>
> Vidyasankar
>
> On May 24, 2017 4:49 AM, "Kalyan via Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> //Here lies the greatness of we advaitins that we never criticise any path
> and take everyone in our own stride and move on....//
>
> Sri Venkata Sriram, Shankara has criticized mimamsa, nyaya, samkhya, yoga,
> vaiseshika, bauddha, jaina, pashupata, pancaratra, carvaka philosophers in
> his commentaries. To say that advaitins do not criticize anybody is far
> removed from reality.
> RegardsKalyan
>
>
>     On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:28 PM, Venkata sriram P via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>> wrote:
>
>
>  Namaste,
>
> ////
>
> Appayya Dikshitha probably has not studied the entire Mahabharata.
> In Shanti parvan, when Vishnu shows his Vishwaroopa to Narada
>
> ///
>
> Those who are making furore over the मन्दत्व of अप्पय दीक्षितः, why don't
> they raise
> objections to the remark of वेदान्त देशिकः when he makes a remark against
> दक्षिणामुर्तिः
> vide shloka no. 7 of his हयग्रीव स्तोत्रं :
>
> दाक्षिण्यरम्या गिरिशस्य मूर्तिः देवी सरोजासन धर्मपत्नी ।
> व्यासादयोऽपि व्यपदेश्यवाचः स्फुरन्ति सर्वे तव शक्तिलेशैः ॥ ७॥
>
> "the pretty south-faced Ishwara (dakshinamurti), Devi Saraswati and
> Bhagavan Badarayana -
> all three draw their power of Knowledge from Lord Hayagriva"
>
> Granted that these compositions show one's devotion to personal deity but
> is it not blasphemous
> to say that the Dakshinamurti who taught the essence of vedanta to great
> brahmanishtaas thru
> silence draws His knowledge thru Hayagriva.  The greatness of
> dakshinamurti is stated in Bhagavata Purana
> itself in 4th chapter.  Having seated in 'mahAyOga' rUpa 'vaTavrikSa',
> demonstrates the 'chinmudra' and dispels
> the doubts to sages.
>
> Now, should we advaitins conclude that Vedanta Desika didn't study any
> shastras and was
> ignorant of the dakshinamurti-tattva?  Certainly not.  Here lies the
> greatness of we advaitins
> that we never criticise any path and take everyone in our own stride and
> move on....
>
> Advaitins are broad-minded and that is why it has become more popular and
> more acceptable today by great logicians and philanthropists.
>
> regs,
> sriram
>
>
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