[Advaita-l] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

Venkatesh Murthy (वेङ्कटेशः सीतारामार्यपुत्रः) vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 16 01:30:20 CDT 2016


 Namaste

The question you are asking is very relevant. Why only Jagat is Mithya
but Jeeva is Brahman when everything is Brahman only? The answer is to
silence the opponents saying the World is Real and Jeeva is a small
part of Brahman or Jeeva is not equal to Brahma. All the Vaishnava
Sampradayas are shouting from rooftops World is Real. It cannot be
Mithya. And they are also making Jeeva like a servant of Brahman
Vishnu in Vaikuntha. For silencing them we say Jagat is Mithya and
Jeeva is not less than Brahma. Aham Brahmasmi.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> The jagat in advaita vedAnta is mithya why??
>
> brahma satya jaganmithya jeevo brahmaiva na paraH famouns saying goes in advaita though same order of statement cannot be found anywhere in prasthAna traya bhAshya of shankara.  I always wonder when the jeeva has been identified as brahman why jagat is barred from this status that too when advaita readily accepts that for the jagat,  brahman is the both upAdAna and nimitta kAraNa??  Well argument may go like this :  since jeeva is chaitanya it is acceptable that jeeva in its svarUpa brahman only nothing else because brahman is the akhanda chaitanya whereas jagat is jada (inert) anAtma hence jagat is not brahman it is mithya only.  Is this mean that there exists a thing that can be called as 'anAtma' in  'jada' svarUpa?? How can this jada jagat can exist aloof from brahman to bifurcate brahman is Chaitanya and jagat is jada and this jada is not brahman but only mithyA??   And contrarily,  we elevate upAdhirahita jeeva as brahman since upadhi rahita jeeva is in his svarUpa brahman only ?? whereas we are not ready to accept jagat in its svarUpa brahman only  when we see the same jagat beyond its nAma rUpa, still we argue that jagat is mithya only.  We are not ready to accept that once the extra attributes removed from jeeva and jagat   what remains is brahman only is it not??   So the equation is
> (a) upAdhi + brahman = jeeva,
> (b) nAma / rUpa + brahman = jagat
> (c) jeeva - upAdhi = brahman and
> (d) jagat - nAma/rUpa = brahman too since what remains after removing adhyArOpita is brahman only nothing else.  Under these circumstances how can we elevate one aspect as brahman and another one  as mithyA??  Any constructive thoughts on this would be most welcome.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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-Venkatesh


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