[Advaita-l] MuktikA Upanishad / MuktikOpanishat cited by srI VidyAraNya svAmI in PanchdaSI

[Nithin Sridhar]

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa went into Nirvikalpa Samadhi within 3 days! He did
not need to study Upanishads etc!


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know, but practically, that is not possible, atleast not for humans :)
>
> OM
>
> Sujal Upadhyay
>
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Nithin Sridhar
> <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > For a highly advanced soul, even a single mahavakya- Tat Tvam Asi is
> enough
> > for realization!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste Ajit ji and Sunil ji,
> > >
> > > I understand what you say.
> > >
> > > As I am not versed in sanskrit, I reply on translations. Translation
> > hosted
> > > by astrojyoti <http://www.astrojyoti.com/MuktikaUpanishad.htm> says
> that
> > > Mandukya is enough. Please can you check and give correct translation.
> > >
> > > इयं कैवल्यमुक्तिस्तु केनोपायेन सिद्ध्यति .
> > > माण्डूक्यमेकमेवालं मुमुक्षूणां विमुक्तये .. २६..
> > >
> > > तथाप्यसिद्धं चेज्ज्ञानं दशोपनिषदं पठ .
> > > ज्ञानं लब्ध्वा चिरादेव मामकं धाम यास्यसि .. २७..
> > >
> > > तथापि दृढता न चेद्विद्ज्ञानस्याञ्जनासुत .
> > > द्वात्रिंशाख्योपनिषदं समभ्यस्य निवर्तय .. २८..
> > >
> > > विदेहमुक्ताविच्छा चेदष्टोत्तरशतं पठ .
> > > तासां क्रम सशान्तिं च श्रुणु वक्ष्यामि तत्त्वतः .. २९..
> > >
> > > ​I-i-26-29. But by what means is the Kaivalya kind of Moksha got ? The
> > > Mandukya is enough; if knowledge is not got from it, then study the Ten
> > > Upanishads. Getting knowledge very soon, you will reach my abode. If
> > > certainty is not got even then, study the 32 Upanishads and stop. If
> > > desiring Moksha without the body, read the 108 Upanishads. Hear their
> > > order.
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Kanchi Paramacharya in his book Hindu Dharma also says that for
> Kaivalya
> > > mukti, it is believed that Mandukya is enough
> > >
> > > My personal opinion on this is:
> > >
> > > OM covers everything all trinity (trio), satva, rajas, tamas, 2 states
> > > (waking, etc) and the 4th part or sthiti or OM is turiya, beyond mAyA.
> > > Hence if you know OM, you can transcend duality.
> > >
> > > But the thing is not all can just hold on to OM. We do not even know
> what
> > > is moksha. It takes time to understand certain things, change our
> > > perspective of life, the way we live. For that shastras play important
> > role
> > > in giving clarity and direction. Of course Guru is necessary.
> > >
> > > Importance of OM is evident from the fact that whole upanishad is
> > dedicated
> > > to explaining just OM. OM is also found in many other upanishads.
> > >
> > > But as I have said, for clearing doubts, getting clarity, brining
> > ourselves
> > > back on track, words of Guru and Shastras are necessary. But I believe
> in
> > > restrictive approach. If by reading just gita, the path is cleared,
> then
> > no
> > > need to read upanishad (just for e.g.). We cannot practice all vidyA-s.
> > One
> > > is enough. Repetition helps in a way that it brushes us what we need to
> > do.
> > > Generally, we are stuck up somewhere and try to find solution. While
> > > reading shastras I try to find solution to my doubt (unknowingly).
> When I
> > > get, it, mind clams down and I get clarity. It's time to meditate.
> > >
> > > Meditation is key. You know that your mind reacts or that you are
> > > emotionally attached to someone or involved in any issue, when that
> thing
> > > pops up in mind during meditation. For some rare pure soul, even OM is
> > not
> > > needed. Neti-neti is enough, but for us, OM is better. Mind falls back
> > from
> > > spiritual, calm and blissful state, as it has lots of other desires
> > > (desires other than moksha).
> > >
> > > Cutting short, if mind is able to hold on to OM , because of very pure
> > mind
> > > and no interest in society and worldly affairs, then no need t read
> more.
> > >  These type of people are often rare and upon maturity turn into
> mystics
> > or
> > > Guru, but not acharya. An acharya is the one who teaches and practices
> > step
> > > by step, in a traditional way, necessary for laymen like me. For just
> > Self
> > > realization, not everything is needed to learn, but if you are destined
> > to
> > > teach then you may be taught in a traditional way, as many would get
> > > convinced if answers are given from shastras, then from direct
> experience
> > > only.
> > >
> > > Hari OM
> > >
> > > ​Sujal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
> > > sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Namaste Sujalji,
> > > >
> > > > Muktika does not say that Mandukya is enough. What it says that if
> > anyone
> > > > wants to read (or have the time  and obviously also  the inclination)
> > for
> > > > reading only one upanishad, then one should go for the Mandukya
> > > upanishad.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Sunil KB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:08 AM, Ajit Krishnan <
> > > > ajit.krishnan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > namaste,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Even Muktika says that Mandukya is enough. If one is not able to
> > > realize
> > > > > truth, then read 10.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A few upanishads are important because they are referred to in the
> > brahma
> > > > sutras. This was probably one factor that encouraged Swami Vidyaranya
> > and
> > > > Swami Shankarananda to comment on some upanishads outside the "big
> 10".
> > > An
> > > > understanding of the brahma sutra bhashya requires an understanding
> of
> > > more
> > > > than just the mandukya upanishad.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sasneham,
> > > >
> > > >     ajit
> > > >
> > > >
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