[Advaita-l] MuktikA Upanishad / MuktikOpanishat cited by srI VidyAraNya svAmI in PanchdaSI

[Sujal Upadhyay]

I know, but practically, that is not possible, atleast not for humans :)

OM

Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Nithin Sridhar
<sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>wrote:

> For a highly advanced soul, even a single mahavakya- Tat Tvam Asi is enough
> for realization!
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Ajit ji and Sunil ji,
> >
> > I understand what you say.
> >
> > As I am not versed in sanskrit, I reply on translations. Translation
> hosted
> > by astrojyoti <http://www.astrojyoti.com/MuktikaUpanishad.htm> says that
> > Mandukya is enough. Please can you check and give correct translation.
> >
> > इयं कैवल्यमुक्तिस्तु केनोपायेन सिद्ध्यति .
> > माण्डूक्यमेकमेवालं मुमुक्षूणां विमुक्तये .. २६..
> >
> > तथाप्यसिद्धं चेज्ज्ञानं दशोपनिषदं पठ .
> > ज्ञानं लब्ध्वा चिरादेव मामकं धाम यास्यसि .. २७..
> >
> > तथापि दृढता न चेद्विद्ज्ञानस्याञ्जनासुत .
> > द्वात्रिंशाख्योपनिषदं समभ्यस्य निवर्तय .. २८..
> >
> > विदेहमुक्ताविच्छा चेदष्टोत्तरशतं पठ .
> > तासां क्रम सशान्तिं च श्रुणु वक्ष्यामि तत्त्वतः .. २९..
> >
> > ​I-i-26-29. But by what means is the Kaivalya kind of Moksha got ? The
> > Mandukya is enough; if knowledge is not got from it, then study the Ten
> > Upanishads. Getting knowledge very soon, you will reach my abode. If
> > certainty is not got even then, study the 32 Upanishads and stop. If
> > desiring Moksha without the body, read the 108 Upanishads. Hear their
> > order.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Kanchi Paramacharya in his book Hindu Dharma also says that for Kaivalya
> > mukti, it is believed that Mandukya is enough
> >
> > My personal opinion on this is:
> >
> > OM covers everything all trinity (trio), satva, rajas, tamas, 2 states
> > (waking, etc) and the 4th part or sthiti or OM is turiya, beyond mAyA.
> > Hence if you know OM, you can transcend duality.
> >
> > But the thing is not all can just hold on to OM. We do not even know what
> > is moksha. It takes time to understand certain things, change our
> > perspective of life, the way we live. For that shastras play important
> role
> > in giving clarity and direction. Of course Guru is necessary.
> >
> > Importance of OM is evident from the fact that whole upanishad is
> dedicated
> > to explaining just OM. OM is also found in many other upanishads.
> >
> > But as I have said, for clearing doubts, getting clarity, brining
> ourselves
> > back on track, words of Guru and Shastras are necessary. But I believe in
> > restrictive approach. If by reading just gita, the path is cleared, then
> no
> > need to read upanishad (just for e.g.). We cannot practice all vidyA-s.
> One
> > is enough. Repetition helps in a way that it brushes us what we need to
> do.
> > Generally, we are stuck up somewhere and try to find solution. While
> > reading shastras I try to find solution to my doubt (unknowingly). When I
> > get, it, mind clams down and I get clarity. It's time to meditate.
> >
> > Meditation is key. You know that your mind reacts or that you are
> > emotionally attached to someone or involved in any issue, when that thing
> > pops up in mind during meditation. For some rare pure soul, even OM is
> not
> > needed. Neti-neti is enough, but for us, OM is better. Mind falls back
> from
> > spiritual, calm and blissful state, as it has lots of other desires
> > (desires other than moksha).
> >
> > Cutting short, if mind is able to hold on to OM , because of very pure
> mind
> > and no interest in society and worldly affairs, then no need t read more.
> >  These type of people are often rare and upon maturity turn into mystics
> or
> > Guru, but not acharya. An acharya is the one who teaches and practices
> step
> > by step, in a traditional way, necessary for laymen like me. For just
> Self
> > realization, not everything is needed to learn, but if you are destined
> to
> > teach then you may be taught in a traditional way, as many would get
> > convinced if answers are given from shastras, then from direct experience
> > only.
> >
> > Hari OM
> >
> > ​Sujal
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
> > sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste Sujalji,
> > >
> > > Muktika does not say that Mandukya is enough. What it says that if
> anyone
> > > wants to read (or have the time  and obviously also  the inclination)
> for
> > > reading only one upanishad, then one should go for the Mandukya
> > upanishad.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Sunil KB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:08 AM, Ajit Krishnan <
> > > ajit.krishnan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > namaste,
> > >
> > >
> > > > Even Muktika says that Mandukya is enough. If one is not able to
> > realize
> > > > truth, then read 10.
> > >
> > >
> > > A few upanishads are important because they are referred to in the
> brahma
> > > sutras. This was probably one factor that encouraged Swami Vidyaranya
> and
> > > Swami Shankarananda to comment on some upanishads outside the "big 10".
> > An
> > > understanding of the brahma sutra bhashya requires an understanding of
> > more
> > > than just the mandukya upanishad.
> > >
> > >
> > > sasneham,
> > >
> > >     ajit
> > >
> > >
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