[Advaita-l] women reading the Vedas

[Anbu sivam2]

Vijayaji,

*Women of the three varnas are not prohibited from knowing let alone
listening to the Vedas.* When I say knowing I do not mean learning to chant
by rote.  There are methods of knowing the Veda and its meaning.  It fact in
the bygone days the women knew of as much Veda by being around without
chanting it themselves.

In modern times due to the play of Kali that manifests in the emphasis of
secularism, the varnas are branded in bad light and the division is
obliterated by painting with one color of so called equality.  I have sought
to argue in this forum the total idiocy of such secularism.  This modern day
practice has obfuscated each jeeva of his/her own uniqueness and motivated
him/her to be in tandem with others as being its sole emphasis.  This has
resulted in the inability of each one to play his/her own unique role.

Vijayaji,  *You are Brahmam and would always remain so.  Learning or not
learning the Veda would not alter the fact of who you really are*.   Whether
one learns veda or not learn it, if he/she does not realize who he/she is
and what role he/she plays in this jagat, then in such ignorance whatever
that person does in this janma would be quite meaningless and be a waste of
time.

My contention that the Gayathri manthra is not to be chanted by women should
be seen in this light. Gayathri manthra motivates the intellect and good
only for men and would hinder women in the maanasic pravaaham that they have
to generate in life.  Just imagine if Seetha had accepted Raama's contention
that there is no such thing as a golden deer!  It is to the credit of the
maanasic pravaaham of Seetha that Raama who contended that the golden deer
is a maaya was himself launched in pursuit of that very maaya!  If that
power of maaya did not affect Raama then there is no play, no story.

If men were to be equally forbidden from chanting the Gayathri manthra then
all men would turn to be unintellectual and be classified as Sudhras. No
society can thrive with such thaamasic deluge.  In the same way if all men
were to chant the Gayathri then there would not be any Sudhra and the
society would turn famished and become skeletal.

If you fall prey to secularism and would contend that there is no
distinction between man and woman and that anybody can do anything as she/he
pleases then the play one would witness will be chaotic and meaningless.
Bhagavan will incarnate then to set it right.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM, vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk <
vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

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> Dear Satish and advaita request list,
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> Sorry but I am not entirely clear.
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> Are women prohibited from even listenning to and understanding a pravachan
> of Vedanta? By Vedas do we mean Vedanta? ie. Is even listenning and
> understanding the philosophy of the Upanishads is prohibited to them??
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> Chanting is difficult for most people and so it is understandable that
> there are restrictions on who does the chanting. However, vedanta
> (pravachans on Upanishads) seem to be widely available for all to listen to,
> understand and enjoy these days.
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> Surely there is no restriction on a woman attending a talk on the
> upanishads??? or even imbibing that learning in her life?????
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> Thanks
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> Vijaya.
> ----Original Message----
> From: satisharigela at yahoo.com
> Date: 23/09/2009 11:21
> To: <vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subj: Re: women reading the Vedas
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> >So vedas can be read by one who is physically male or female so long
> >as they have full consciousness of the play of the three gunas within
> >them.
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> I have tried in vain to understand why some people insist that some groups
> should learn the veda when it is clarified in hundreds of works that they
> are not meant to say the veda.
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> There are like thousand spiritual options for these groups(like women
> shUdra-s) mentioned in the purANa-s and Agama-s. Why this fixation with
> chanting only that which is forbidden and leave all the other options that
> the tradition provides?
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> To me this is simply a case of attraction towards that which is forbidden.
> Like in the story where "the doctor advises the patient not to think about a
> monkey... and for the next couple of hours the patient could only think of
> the monkey". :)
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> >Thats what I feel is OK in todays world.
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> Somebody else might feel puruShamedha is ok in today's world based on some
> vague references and ritually slaughter the guy next door...So you or me
> feeling something does not make it right. He will be sent to jail for man
> slaughter...so is it with women saying the veda-s..
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> I find it really hard to understand this:...why when many many religious
> options are given and said do not chant the veda-s but you are free to
> follow any of those thousand options....still people yearn for the one
> things which is forbidden leaving all legitimate options???
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> --- On Wed, 9/23/09, vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk <
> vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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> From: vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk <vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk
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> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] women reading the Vedas
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:14 AM
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> Dear Advaita request list,
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> Sorry to go back to a few weeks ago. But there was a question
> regarding whether women should read the Vedas or not.
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> I have been told by a source that the word 'STRI' can be split to SA +
> TRI  meaning one wedded to the three gunas. This could refer to one who
> is physically male or female.
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> So vedas can be read by one who is physically male or female so long
> as they have full consciousness of the play of the three gunas within
> them.
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> Thats what I feel is OK in todays world.
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> Also there have been instances of Sages teaching women the Vedas and
> of women being well versed in the Vedas.
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> Women brahmacharinis exist in may hindu organistations doing excellent
> work from a good understanding of the hindu religion.
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> Vijaya Kambhampati.
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