[Advaita-l] Sringeri AchAryas on the vivaraNa - the cause of adhyAsa (3)
prem d p
prem_d_p at yahoo.co.in
Fri Apr 6 00:38:42 CDT 2007
namaste...
Dear Sri Anand Hudliji,
I am very grateful for this series on adhyasa by you
and would like to request some clarifications as below:
Sri Anand Hudli:
PadmapAdAchArya says that the avidyA shakti, the power of
avidyA, must necessarily be accepted. This leads us to
the concept of bhAva-rUpa-ajnAna, the ajnAna that is not
merely an absence of jnAna or knowledge, but something that is positive in nature (bhAva-rUpa).
Prem:
It seems to me that mere absence of jnana would lead to
the negation of the Seer. This is inadmissible as it
leads to a pure materialistic essence for the Universe.
Consciousness being what it is, a Seer has to be and has
to see. Hence adhyasa. Jnanam is Truth is Existence.
... is my understanding correct?
Sri Anand Hudli:
ajnAna is different from both existence and nonexistence.
However, it is customarily called bhAvarUpa to indicate
(emphasize) that it is different from nonexistence
(absence). (Yet) one cannot infer that it
is beginningless *and* non-sublatable like the Atman.
Prem:
I am not clear about the last sentence above. Is it that
inference by induction is impossible because this is not
observable ie. sublation itself is postulated as
dissolution of the drk-drsya dichotomy(?). Inference by
deduction, of course, would have to base itself on
axioms/premises.
Also it seems to me that the difference from
non-existence of bhava-rupa is possible only if
pragabhavam is also realized to be different from kevala
abhavam. Am I right here? Also avidya is anAdi but may
be ended and hence sublatable (?).
Sri Anand Hudli:
The shruti statements, "Darkness was" (Rig Veda nAsadIya
sUkta), and "mAyA is understood to be prakR^iti
(nature)" (shvetAshvatara upaniShad), also affirm that
ajnAna (as bhAvarUpa). By the word "darkness", an absence
of knowledge is not stated because (the shruti) excludes
(such an) absence by declaring "Non-existence (asat) was
not there" and "Darkness was."
Prem:
This Darkness, how does it relate to Avyakta and the
Triguna nature of Prakriti?
Who is the Seer of this Darkness? Is this primordial
Darkness realized as Mithya by its Seer
or is it that
Darkness is non-different from Mithya?
The Darkness is in the eye of the Seer and the
Seer-of-Darkness is in the heart of Darkness (?).
Sri Anand Hudli:
...the world. which is a combination of names and forms,
existed in its causal state, bhAvarUpa ajnAna, before
creation. The world of names and forms is a product of
this bhAvarUpa-ajnAna, and not different from it.
Prem:
However, the Bhavarupa-Ajnana itself has no causal
relationship with Brahman (?).
Pranams.
...prem
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