[Advaita-l] creationist And evolutionist

[elisabeth-sylvain at sympatico.ca]

(Viswanathan) ... so where is the question of creator.

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Do you mean our actions cannot create prakriti ?

Sylvan


>From: Viswanathan N <vishy1962 at yahoo.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] creationist And evolutionist
>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:57:29 +0100 (BST)
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>What is that 'Self'? That is all pervading energy (Bhramhan). Its just one 
>without second, so where is need for any action  from this. It remained, 
>remains and remain for ever, so where is the question of creator. The 
>physical / material world what we see is the result of Prakruthic/ 
>vyavaharic cycles waht you call otherwise the evolution. Its the result of 
>cause and result of very many actions under prakruthic dharma. It keps on 
>changing movement to movement which we call evolutionay process. But again 
>be sure, that self is neither involved nor has anything to do with this, it 
>remains just an observer of all these. When you center  you conciousness to 
>this self, you wud be just the observer and not the doer or enjoyer.
>
>elisabeth-sylvain at sympatico.ca wrote:
>(Viswanathan) Evolution fits in better than creation for an advaitin.
>Creaton is more for more for prophrtic religions of west (islam,
>Chstny,Judaism) whis says creator sitting some where and created the world
>and adam /eve etc
>
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>
>However, I think advaitins recognize that our actions CREATE our world.
>Are we not the Self ... even if most of the times anaware ?
>
>Sylvan
>
> >From: Viswanathan N
> >Reply-To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> >
> >To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> >
> >Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] creationist And evolutionist
> >Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:34:51 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Ya u r correct
> >
> > Evolution fits in better than creation for an advaitin. Creaton is more
> >for more for prophrtic religions of west (islam, Chstny,Judaism) whis 
>says
> >creator sitting some where and created the world and adam /eve etc.
> >
> >
> >Raghavendra N Kalyan wrote:
> > Namaste,
> >
> >
> > > Can an advaitin recognize creationism And (not or) evolutionism ?
> >
> >
> >Since evolution is based on pratyaksha and anumAna (direct
> >observation/experiment and logical inference), an advaitin should have no
> >problem in accepting it.
> >
> >
> >But creationism can create some problems. There are some creationists who
> >claim that the world was created in 4000 BC or something like that. These
> >are directly against observation and needless to say an advaitin would
> >reject them.
> >
> >
> >Of course there are some theories of creation in Sruti which "appear" to
> >contradict evolution. But then, the standard advaitic position is that 
>the
> >(mutually) contradictory nature of some creation theories in Sruti, is
> >meant to drive home the point that creation falls under the realms of 
>mAyA.
> >(I may not be exactly correct here, but this is the gist anyway). Note 
>that
> >this is not a modern day cooked-up reinterpretation of the Sruti but it 
>has
> >its basis in the mANDukya upanishad bhAshya + gauDapAda's kArikAs. The
> >"ajAti vAda" (no creation in the ultimate sense) is derived from this. 
>From
> >this point of view, neither Sruti nor advaita vedAnta (which is based on
> >Sruti) should have any problem with evolution.
> >
> >
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