LIFE

[egodust]

Charles Hillig wrote:
> >Why ten minute fuse of contemplation ? My preference is not to give even
> >one minute for the explosion to take place so that Silence and Quietness
> >is unchained and liberated.
>
> The Silence is NOT  "chained."  IT is ever present.
> Ten minutes?  One minute?   The SELF is unbounded  and non-linear.  It is
> beyond limitations of time and space.
>
> >Ten minutes is too long a time for the mind
> >to work its by now well-known web of illusion.
> >
> >The biggest source of all problems we encounter is the Mind, the
> >uncontrolled and which roams as it wishes without any leash.
>
> The biggest so-called problem may be to get past the delusion that  there IS
> a "separate Mind" that's creating all of this mischief.
>
> >
> >Mindworks Ltd (with its Managing Director, the maaya) is a factory which
> >creates all sorts of unnecessary and banned (to an advaitin) substances.
> >I will even add, it creates only unrequired gadgets and puts hindrance
> >at every step of the way.
> >
> >The sooner we get rid of this factory, the closer we are to remove the
> >veil of ignorance.
> >
> >Regards
> >Gummuluru Murthy
> >
>
> The "factory" will continue to, seemingly, "do" whatever IT, seemingly,
> "does."
> Your discovery that the "lake" that you see in the desert is really only a
> mirage is NOT going to make this "lake" disappear.   But, after you realize
> that it's not real, you won't be running after it as before.  You may not
> really, seemingly, awaken FROM the illusion as much as TO the illusion.
>
>      Spiritual "progress" is impossible.  There's nothing that  "you" can
> "do" to, seemingly, get to a place where you already exist as the Absolute
> SELF.   Believing that there is, however, provides the momentum for you to
> go out looking for  "The Truth."   However, your very act of seeking only
> validates your delusion that you are, quintessentially, different from what
> it is that you are seeking.
>
>      Let go of struggle, do-ership and attainment.  Let go of it all!
>
>           (and then let go of "letting go.")   Only the SELF is present.
>
>                          With Blessings,
>                                           Chuck Hillig

Have to agree with you also.  The dvaitic delusion that the Mind is real at all
is a phenomenon with no more impact than the night-time dream of "reality"
confronting the subject...all spun by Mind.  In the earlier stages this Beast
needs be acknowledged--even if to humor the apparent victim.  Yet there's just
NO VICTIM at all.  This is why there can only be jnanis...in fact, only One
Jnani: That ParaBrahmam.  Anything else is a hare's horn growing on the chin of
a housecat!

peace. peace. peace.
namskaaram.

>From  Mon Sep 30 20:53:21 1996
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Hello,

On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:04:41 -0500, Ravi <msr at REDDY20.TAMU.EDU> wrote:

>namaste, My respects to you all,
>
>        I recently read in the biography of Milarepa that it
>is difficult to think of concepts like void ( or absolute),
>so better to get the grasp of Doctrine of Karma. If that is
>clearly grasped, it will help us from getting entangled and
>lead us further.
>
>        He also asks the disciples not to read a lot books
>on philosophy and read only biographies of great saints.

I think that this is where you start to cross the line between the
beneficial aspects of reading the philosophies of many different
spiritual groups and some of the adverse aspects.

IMHO, I think it is good to read books on philosophy from many
different groups in order to be able to get a three-dimensional
perspective about Brahman and Maya, etc.

However, I think it is best to avoid *specific advice* as to what to
do and not do, that doesn't come from one's own spiritual teacher.

I know that many spiritual teachers told different disciples to do
different things - depending on their temperament.

The specific quotes above are a good example - I've heard masters tell
some disiciples to read more books and then tell other disicples to
throw away all their books.

I certainly know some people who are too hung up on the intellectual
aspects of religion, and other people whose many problem is that they
have very little intellectual philosophical knowledge.

PS  Indeed one of the advantages of Hinduism over Buddhism is that the
concept of Satchidananda (existence-consciousness-bliss) is a lot
easier to comprehend than the concept of the void.


Cheers,

Ken                         <*>
kstuart at mail.telis.org

" Turn the earth to sand and still commit no crime
  How one thought will live provide the others die
  For I have riches more than these " - John Lodge