[Advaita-l] Definition of Ashrayatva and Vishayatva

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Venkat Ji,

I thought the following would support Vichara Sagara view. Is that likely ??

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Regards

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:43 AM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouli ji
>
> Thank you for sharing the references. Again, very interesting aspects
> brought out in the comments below by Dr Raja and Suryanarayana Shastri. The
> natural question it leads to is who is Ishvara in the bhAmati system that
> uses the ignorance located in the jIva to create the world. Some answers
> are found in the references provided by Dr Raja and S. Shastri themselves.
>
> I checked the commentary to the Vedanta Paribhasha by Anantakrishna
> Sastrigal and read what he has to say on the topic.
>
> He says that in the commentary to the siddhAntu bindu, brahmAnanda
> sarasvatI says that the determining factor for what is the cause of the
> universe is where ignorance resides, and on that basis, it is the jIva that
> is the cause of the universe according to vAchaspati miSra - because he
> (vAchaspati) holds that ignorance resides in the jIva.
>
> However, Anantakrishna Shastrigal goes on to say that the Kalapataru says
> that according to vAchaspati miSra, Brahman is the cause of the universe.
>
> In support, he quotes a verse from the Kalpataru commentary to the
> jagatvAcitva-adhikaraNam / bAlAkyadhikaraNam.
>
> The kalpatarukAra writes the following verse on the phrase जगत्कर्तृत्वस्य
> च ब्रह्मणोऽन्यत्रासम्भवात् of the bhAmati -
>
> जगत्कर्तृत्वमन्यत्र ब्रह्मणो नेति दुष्यति। वाचस्पतावुपालम्भमनालोच्योचिरे
> परे॥
> जीवाज्जज्ञे जगत्सर्वं सकारणमिति ब्रुवन्।
> क्षिपन् समन्वयं जीवे न लेजे वाक्पतिः कथम्?॥
>
> So, in vAchaspati's view, Brahman is the creator of the world even if
> ignorance is located in the jIva.
>
> I don't think this is the support for the vichAra sAgara statement that
> the intent of the bhAmatikAra is that Brahman is the locus of ignorance,
> and it is notionally said to be located in the jIva on the basis of
> something located in the visheShya is notionally said to be located in the
> vishiShTa also.
>
> Regards
> Venkatraghavan
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