[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Deep Sleep is Nondual Self with objections refuted, SSSS

Bhaskar YR bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com
Tue Jun 24 01:16:15 EDT 2025


praNAms Sri Raghav prabhuji
Hare Krishna

I am sorry Michael ji, but no amount of “Hackery” can change the fact that if suShupti was shuddha brahman, it should by all standards of common sense be called tritiya not turIya . 

>  prAjna is tureeya only and likewise Vishwa and taijasa too tureeya only, do you want us to see 'tureeya' in some separate exalted or mysterious state / Avastha??  Tureeya is the naija svarUpa of all these three states and hence he is also called avasthAteeta.  You cannot simply assume the absence of tureeya in the three states and giving him the separate aloof state apart from these three states which shuruti asks us to analyze to know the true svarUpa of tureeya.  Dvaita grahaNa is there in both waking and dream (misconception) and in deep sleep dvaita grahaNa will not be there on account of 'ekatvaM' but without knowing this ekatvaM ( jnAna abhAva), when these two (agrahaNa and anyathAgrahaNa) ceases one is said to be attained the state of the fourth (tureeya) so says kArika.  So, tureeyatvaM is the inherent nature of prAjnA, Vishwa and taizasa and tureeya is NOT a separate entity. It is from this view point it has been pointed out by bhAshyakAra and shruti that no ignorance whatever is seen to be actually lurking in sushupti, for Atman of the nature of Shuddha Chaitanya alone remains there, but ignorant mistake and look upoin him as enveloped in ignorance from the waking point of view.  And as there can be no misconception (adhyAsa) without avidyA (jnAnAbhAva) underlying it, the SAME ATMAN should be considered to maintain himself free from jAgrat and Svapna.  Hence shruti says for the tureeya the socalled states are his dreams (trayee svapnAH - Itareya).  

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar


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