[Advaita-l] [advaitin] How jnAnAbhAva can cause adhyAsa !!??

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

Namaste Sudhanshu ji
 Essay type answers to your MCQs are challenging.

Simply put, SSS ji claims
1. mAyA is triguNAtmikA
2. avidyA and adhyAsa are not mAyA

But the critical words (ontological category-reveal words) will not be said
because it's clear it will reveal to either a new or problematic
ontological category.

For the jnAnAbhAvavAda interpretation of bhAShya pioneered by Sri SSS ji,
the respected recent vyAkhyAnakAra,

avidyA is not Brahman ('sat' is ruled out)

avidyA is not mAyA (sadasadvilaxaNA ruled out). (Because mAyA which is
bhAvarUpA and enjoys kArya-kAraNa-ananyatvaM with sat-brahma only provides
the Ashraya/basis for avidyA and adhyAsa. mAyA also provides a way out.)

Ergo avidyA is either tucchaM or shUnyaM.

There are advantages in your tarka which is crisp. (I would translate
shuShka-tarka as "crisp" logic. No one want soggy wafers).

Om
Raghav





On Tue, 10 Sept, 2024, 9:57 pm Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Hare Krishna Bhaskar Prabhu ji
>
>
>
> >
> >    1. Is adhyAsa jnAna-abhAva?
> >
> >
> >    - Have you not read my previous email with regard to this!!??  jnAna
> >    abhAva is nepa mAtra cause for adhyAsa it is not in the sence that
> this
> >    jnAnAbhAva is upAdAna or nimitta. It only gives room for adhyAsa like
> empty
> >    vessel giving room to anything and everything.
> >
> > I am asking a simple question. Is adhyAsa identical to jnAna-abhAva? Yes
> or no?
>
>
>
> >    2. Is jnAna-abhAva triguNatmaka?
> >
> >
> >    - Let me explain this with one more example, if a person does not have
> >    the knowledge about his svarUpa, his intellect lacks this knowledge,
> the
> >    absence of this knowledge is what is called jnAna abhAva, (an
> emptiness in
> >    the intellect), this absence of knowledge would give room to that
> person to
> >    think that I am foolish, lethargy (tamasic guNa), I am great
> logician, I am
> >    great scholar I can defeat anyone in debates, no one can match my
> intellect
> >    etc. (rAjasic guNa),  likewise if he is saMskAravanta, he would also
> >    entertain sAtvik thoughts like I am bhakta, I am dAsAnudAsa to my
> upAsya
> >    devata etc. These existent thoughts in the absence of knowledge are
> born
> >    out of triguNAtmika mAya as per individual jeeva’s vidyA karma and
> >    pUrvaprajna.   But when ‘king knowledge’ enters his mind all these
> wrong
> >    perceptions about himself would vanish.  BTW triguNAtmika mAya is not
> >    avidyA as per the dictionary of Advaita vedAnta / siddhAnta😊
> >
> >
> OK. So the pinpointed question is - is this jnAna-abhAva (whatever that may
> be, emptiness/absence/whatever) triguNAtmaka? Answer in yes/no please.
>
>
>
> >    3. Is adhyAsa triguNAtmaka?
> >
> >
> >    - See above, mAyA kArya is the stage for adhyAsa.  IOW, in the
> >    transactional world where jeeva seeing and identifying himself as an
> >    individual, the basis for this adhyAsa resulting from jnAnAbhAva is
> the
> >    Jagat which is an effect of mAyA. In fact, this basis the vyAkruta
> jagat
> >    with nAma rUpa serves not only the purpose of mundane life and its
> >    suffering and enjoyment but also mOksha of jeeva. jeeva is gripped by
> >    adhyAsa and hence unable to differentiate himself from the world. And
> after
> >    the jnAna dawns he would see / realize the indifference. i.e.
> Atmaikatva or
> >    sarvAtma bhAva or Samyak drushti.  This triguNActmika, parApard
> prakruti /
> >    mAya is not different from Ishwara in srushti prakriya and Ishwara’s
> >    prakruti always exists and adhyAsa is not like that it is jnAna
> virOdhi
> >    when jnAna dawns no place for avidyA/ajnAna.
> >
> > I am asking about mango and you are answering about tamarind. I am asking
> - is adhyAsa triguNAtmaka? Answer in yes/no please.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar
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