[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: A discussion on sAkshi-bhAsyatva of ajnAna and ajnAna-vyAvartaka-vishaya

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,

I confess I have not gone through the posts in any depth. However on a
first reading, prima facie it appeared to me that while different
anubhavas are explained based on the admittance of ajnAna as a bhAvarUpa
entity, they do not  cover the question as to why ajnAna should be admitted
as such, a bhAvarUpa entity, in the first place. Here I would like to point
out that many of these questions have been raised and answered by
postulating  that, for anAdi entities, ajnatatva (leading to ignorance) can
also be anAdi and it is not necessary to postulate a cause  for
such ignorance (ajnAtatva).

I also want to clarify that I am not in a position to enter into a debate
by providing supporting evidence to justify the alternate position. But I
wanted to know if I have missedout  in the posts the part which justifies
the admittance of such a bhAvarUpa ajnAna.

Regards

On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 6:10 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> in continuation to the previous mail, the following is posted for a
> snapshot of the key ideas:
>
> The crux is as under:
>
> 1. Only pot is not sAkshi-bhAsya.
>
> 2. Only ajnAna is not sAkshi-bhAsya.
>
> 3. jnAtatva-vishishTa-pot and ajnAtatva-vishishTa-pot are sAkshI-bhAsya.
>
> 4. There is no such time when only pot, devoid of either jnAtatva or
> ajnAtatva, exists.
>
> 4. pot-vishishTa-ajnAna is sAkshi-bhAsya.
>
> 5. Role of pramANa is to bring about jnAtatva by removing ajnAtatva.
>
> 6. The ajnAtatva is beginningless.
>
> 7. ajnAtatva-vishishTa-pot is always illuminated by sAkshI till
> jnAtatva comes about.
>
> 8. The expression "aham ajnah" has bhAvarUpa-ajnAna as its vishaya.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>
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