[Advaita-l] [advaitin] jivanmukti & Lord Rama query

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Namaste.
Venkatraghavan sir if possible give a small gist of this in English.

Thank you

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 at 10:35 AM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste,
> The answer to this question reminds me of the "loke vihara rAghava" verses
> from Yoga Vashishtha -
>
> पूर्णां दृष्टिमवष्टभ्य ध्येयत्यागविलासिनीम् ।
> जीवन्मुक्ततया स्वस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। १७
> अन्तः संत्यक्तसर्वाशो वीतरागो विवासनः ।
> बहिः सर्वसमाचारो लोके विहर राघव ।। १८
> उदारः पेशलाचारः सर्वाचारानुवृत्तिमान् ।
> अन्तः सर्वपरित्यागी लोके विहर राघव ।। १९
> प्रविचार्य दशाः सर्वा यदतुच्छं परं पदम् ।
> तदेव भावेनालम्ब्य लोके विहर राघव ।। २०
> *अन्तर्नैराश्यमादाय बहिराशोन्मुखेहितः ।*
> *बहिस्तप्तोऽन्तराशीतो लोके विहर राघव ।। २१*
> बहिः कृत्रिमसंरम्भो हृदि संरम्भवर्जितः ।
> कर्ता बहिरकर्तान्तर्लोके विहर राघव ।। २२
> ज्ञातवानसि सर्वेषां भावानां सम्यगन्तरम् ।
> यथेच्छसि तथा दृष्ट्या लोके विहर राघव ।। २३
> कृत्रिमोल्लासहर्षस्थः कृत्रिमोद्वेगगर्हणः ।
> कृत्रिमारम्भसंरम्भो लोके विहर राघव ।। २४
> त्यक्ताहंकृतिराश्वस्तमतिराकाशशोभनः ।
> अगृहीतकलङ्काङ्को लोके विहर राघव ।। २५
> आशापाशशतोन्मुक्तः समः सर्वासु वृत्तिषु ।
> बहिः प्रकृतिकार्यस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। २६
>
> Kind regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, 16:23 aham brahmaasmi, <ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > नमो विद्वत्सभायै !
> >
> > I have heard that Lord Rama, on hearing about Sitamata's abduction, was
> so
> > 'shokaakula' (grief-stricken), that He went around asking the trees,
> > streams , birds of her whereabouts.   Also, that he also even
> contemplated
> > suicide.  I have read this in a couple of places, also mentioned in ? one
> > of the puranas (via  Parampujya Swami Ishwarananda Giri maharaj's talk).
> >
> >  Lord Rama was an avatar-purusha, and as per yoga-vasishtha, displayed
> > very high SCS, vairagyam etc. even at age 12-13. He got instructed in
> > Brahmavidya soon after, which clearly makes him a jnani ( in addition to
> > avatar purusha. ).
> >
> > So my questions are
> >
> > 1)  what is jivanmukti then? If someone like Lord Rama could get this
> > affected, (to even contemplate suicide), what to say about ordinary
> > individuals like me ?  *Yet,* on the other hand, my Guru, and all
> > mahatmas too probably,  emphatically reiterate that it is possible  to
> get
> > jivanmukti in this very janma.
> >
> > 2) And how can Lord Rama's above-stated response (IF it is correct), be
> > reconciled with BG  'gurNApi dukhena na vichAlyate' ?
> >
> > I am sorry I am unable to trace the exact video, but it is  one of Swami
> > Ishwarananda Giriji's
> > https://www.youtube.com/@SamvitDarshanRRC
> >
> > Most importantly, this is only a *very sincere question* that has
> > bothered me for very long.
> >
> > thanks in advance, for your replies,
> > sakshi
> >
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