[Advaita-l] [advaitin] SSSS on the controversy between mulav7idya and abhavarupa - directly and simply explained as per SSSS

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Bhaskar ji.

Just a curiosity.

You guys reject SAyaNa BhAshya on Rigveda also. Right?

Because Rigveda BhAshya on NAsadIya SUkta clearly says that MAyA is synonym
of ajnAna and that it is bhAvarUpa. And SSS ji rejects both of these
concepts.

Regards.
Sudhanshu Shekhar.

On Tue, 20 Aug, 2024, 11:16 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin, <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

> praNAms
>
> Hare Krishna
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> It is not just about the word mUlAvidyA, Sri SSS’s contention is about
> usage of this term and definition of it in vyAkhyAna-s (panchapAdika
> vivaraNa in particular).  Just coz. nirvana used in kArika it is not
> Buddhistic text, likewise just coz. MV used in up. It is not
> vyAkhyAnakAra’s MV 😊 If that is not the case, Sri SSS somewhere jokingly
> says in Kannada : haladi seere uttikondiruvavarella nanna hendati unda
> haage 😊
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> bhaskar
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> *BHASKAR YR*
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> त्रिपाद्विभूतिमहानारायणोपनिषत्
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> https://sa.wikisource.org/s/1s82
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> This Upanishad, listed in the 108 of the Muktika upanishad, has at least
> 10 occurrences of the term mUlAvidyA.  The Upanishad has the commentary of
> an Advaitin Upanishad Brahma Yogin.
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> https://archive.org/details/108_Upanishads_with_Sanskrit_Commentary_of_Upanishad_Brahma_Yogin/Dasonapanishads%20with%20Upanishadbrahman%27s%20commentary%20Vol%201/
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 9:37 AM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> praNAms Sri MCC prabhuji
>
> Hare Krishna
>
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>
> Swami Prabuddhanandaji is a 50+ year disciple of Swami Chinmayananndaji.
> He has also studied with Dayanandaji and more recently, SSSSji.
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>    - Sri Prakashanandendra Saraswati was also earlier with Arsha vidya I
>    think.  Now teaching Sri SSS’s Shuddha shankara Vedanta at Holenarsipur.
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> He has been giving talks at .Ramana Kendra, New Delhi for decades. Swamiji
> is a master teacher and advocate of SSSS recognition of Prasthanatraya
> Bhasya.
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> Ø     Interesting fact about bhAvarUpa avidyA and it’s refutation,  has
> been accepted by other pundits ‘as it is’ even though they are not so good
> friend of Sri SSS’s works.  mUlAvidyA is a fabricated theory by later
> advaitins just to counter the objections of dualists and it hardly finds a
> place in shankara’s mUla PTB.
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>
>
> Here he is in his prime, discussing silver/shell and one/two moons from
> Adhyasa Bhasya (first 30 min) comparing mulavidvya with abhavarupa avidya
> in a simple easy-to-understand manner as claimed to be the way
> Sankaracharya originally intended.
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> Ø     Simple easy way !!??  who needs it or who cares it ??  Who needs
> ‘anubhava sammata svAbhAvika adhyAsa’  when they have the big-big
> nomenclatures to define and defend bhAvarUpa, brahmAshrita, anirvachaneeya
> avidyA??  They want to add all types of ‘masala’ to it to have it in a more
> attractive way to construct logical theories around it 😊 Sri SSS very
> often says in all through his works : shankara Vedanta is anubhava sammata,
> shrutyukta vedAnta it is not a product of shushka tarka which neither has
> the backdrop of shruti, shrutyukta yukti and anubhava,
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>    - I really appreciate your patience to pacify the needs of some tyros
>    here and trying to prove credentials of Sri SSS in front of those who left
>    and right passing their adolescent  judgements on saint who dedicated more
>    than 6 decades exclusively in the study of Shuddha shankara vedAnta
>    prakriya viz a viz later vyAkhyAna-s.  Fortunately, Sri SSS when he openly
>    challenged the stand of vyAkhyAnakAra-s then, no one dared to say:  Sorry
>    you don’t know nyAya, you have not understood basic tenets of shankara
>    Vedanta, intentions of subsequent vyAkhyAna etc. so you are not qualified
>    enough to debate with pundita-s like us.  OTOH, after reading Sri SSS’s
>    objections they sincerely tried to defend their position.  Hardly Sri SSS
>    encountered ‘childish’ attacks like this during his time.  Of course they
>    were all well mannered traditional scholars know how to respect a saint and
>    scholar in tradition, and more importantly they were not just armchair
>    philosophers like us.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>
> bhaskar
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