[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Raghav ji,

//Also no purpose is served by 'advocacy' of ideas such as "no jnAnIs
have ever existed" etc. Because if we accept the existence of time and
space, then "GYAnIs" too have "existed", from that particular perspective.//

When time and space are imagined by me, there can be imagined jnAnIs as
well. In fact, that the is the view DSV holds.

It is not advocacy. It is a logical requirement. World is a product of
avidyA. With avidyA gone, there can be no world. There can be no perception
of world.

The perception of world implies the absence of jnAna happening to anyone
ever. There is only one ajnAna. There is only one jIva. That is the premise.

Regards.

On Sat, 18 Nov, 2023, 4:31 pm Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Yes ji
> That sounds quite reasonable and understandable - what you wrote about
> nididhyAsanam.
>
> Also no purpose is served by 'advocacy' of ideas such as "no jnAnIs have
> ever existed" etc. Because if we accept the existence of time and space,
> then "GYAnIs" too have "existed", from that particular perspective.
>
>
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> On Sat, 18 Nov, 2023, 4:26 pm H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:54 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Personally I am comfortable with DSV as a nididhyAsana-predominant
> > approach
> > > rather than as something to assert in public.
> > >
> > >
> > > Namaste Raghav Ji,
> >
> >
> > That is exactly what Sri MS has meant in AS when he states that Sri
> > Bhagavatpada has addressed madhyama adhikArIs in his Bhashya. Sri MS does
> > not also say that DSV is compulsory. He proposes it as an alternate
> > prakriya to SDV at NididhyAsana stage. That it is an alternate prakriya
> is
> > clear from SB of Sri MS. I had already referred to it in my earlier post.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > >
> > >
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