[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?
Bhaskar YR
bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com
Thu Nov 16 03:00:51 EST 2023
Any reference to jIvanmukti by Bhagvan Krishna or any of the AchAryAs such as MS Himself in 3.18 etc is to be understood in this manner only. As an arthavAda.
praNAms
Hare Krishna
After reading this I am getting some crazy doubts in my mind 😊 please bear with me.
(a) Is shankara bhagavatpAda mukta (Jeevan mukta) or not?? It is only arthavAda and bhagavatpAda himself a mere object in DSV, how can I believe he is having any 'stuff' in his teaching?? After all 'he', his teaching etc. are just my imagination is it not??
(b) if the realization itself is arthavAda what is the role of sampradaya and sampradaya teaching?? And what is the need of Advaita sAdhana like shravaNAdi sAdhana?? When all these things are mere super imagination of this eka jeeva??
(c) when this eka jeeva knows (intellectually) or realizes literally that he is one and everything else is his imagination, through which means (sAdhana) he would attain this knowledge and how he validates his knowledge and how he would determine his realization is genuine and not his mere stupid imagination??
(d) And finally the author MS and his works (sankshepa shaareerika teeka, vedAntamuktAvali, AS, gUdArtha Deepika etc.) is just there in my ( the alone jeeva) imagination and I am drawing conclusions that in SDV ONLY jeevanmukta possible and DSV is just not accepting this etc.?? Don’t we get the doubt that in imagination we are just doing sub(upa) imagination?? 😊
( e) if sampradaya is a mute thing in EJV and jnAnOtpatti can happen on its own without any sAmpradAyik teaching or guru-shishya paraMpara, why on the earth advaita sampradaya giving undue importance to sampradaya?? OK, if we argue it is from the platform of SDV meant only for nAnA jeeva vAdins, then what is the route map for the EJ to realize that he is ekaM and there is no dviteeyaM when he considers everything apart from him is just his imagination and eulogy (arthavAda)??
(f) And finally is this AS or any other works of MS just there to propagate Advaita siddhAnta, pratipAdana and sAdhana without caring much about sampradaya and sampradaya Acharya-s?? Are these works just an attempt of justifying Advaita and saving it from the objections of dvaitins?? This is my genuine query as I am not familiar with any of the works of MS as I have read Sri Vidya prabhuji's opinion in this list itself that Sri MS deviated from shankara's mUlabhAshya when presenting his prakriya. And incidentally Sri Venkataraghavan prabhuji also confirmed works like AS just polemics and not recommended or not required as a mandatory work in Advaita to study.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
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