[Advaita-l] Fwd: The reality ascribed to Brahman is not the same for the world

[V Subrahmanian]

Dear Vikram ji,

I agree with you.  I am not proposing that Ramanuja is accepting a
gradation on the same lines as Advaita does. That there are levels in other
systems too is what is being highlighted.

regards
subbu



On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:16 PM Vikram Jagannathan <vikkyjagan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaskaram,
>
> Indeed; Swami Ramanujacharya mentions this in Brahmasutra 1.1.2. While
> explaining "satyam jnanam anantam brahma" he says that the word 'satyam'
> speaks of Brahman associated with unconditioned reality (or existence),
> excluding the non-sentient (achit jagat) and sentient (chit jiva) entities.
> This can be seen as attributing a higher level of independent reality to
> Brahman's svarupa whereas the attributes of Brahman, namely achit and chit,
> have a relatively lower level of dependent reality. However, all three -
> Brahman, Jiva, Jagat - are considered to be equally eternal and existing at
> all times.
>
> This stands in contrast with Swami Sankaracharya's explanation of
> gradation of reality based on sublation, dependence and relative
> non-existence with reference to higher perspective. As a quick comment,
> though they are similar (in gradation of reality), there are significant
> differences between the two schools in the nature & definition of reality.
>
> with humble prostrations,
> Vikram
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:14 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Praudhadevaraya, a 15th-century king of the Vijayanagara Empire, has
>> written a  Brahmasutra Vrtti (Advaita) text. In the publication of this
>> book,  its editor, the late Vidwan Shri K.S. Varadacharya (of Srivaishnava
>> Sampradaya), has expressed many things in his introduction to the book.
>> While saying  about 'reality', satyatvam, he has also quoted a passage
>> from
>> Sri Ramanuja's Sribhasya saying that the same reality that we ascribe to
>> Brahman cannot be given to the world.
>>
>> This book is available at:
>>
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/fudh_brahma-sutra-vrtti-of-prauda-devraya-series-no.-136-oriental-research-institute-mysore/page/n13/mode/2up
>>
>> Images from the Editor Sri K.S.Varadacharya's introduction:
>>
>> See here:  https://groups.google.com/g/advaitin/c/UzU4cfMZVFQ
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