[Advaita-l] [advaitin] RE: The fate of mind after realization

[sunil bhattacharjya]

Chandramouliji,

In Sankhya you will find what manah (मनः
<https://translate.glosbe.com/en-sa/mind>) is, and how it is a part of the
Sukshma sarrera and how Manah controls the Indriyas.

Best
skb


On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 12:36 AM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sunil Ji,
>
> Reg  <<  When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
> the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
> a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
> the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil  >>,
>
> Can you please give a reference to any text wherein this concept has been
> elaborated.
>
> Regards
>
> Chandramouli
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:18 PM sunil bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Chandramouliji,
>>
>> you posed the question:
>>
>> why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda  state >>*
>>
>> I regret to have to state that you have not understood the concept of
>> *Manah-Shunya* at all. When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
>> the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
>> a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
>> the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil.
>>
>> Jai Shri Krishnajiki
>> skb
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 1:20 AM H S Chandramouli <
>> hschandramouli at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Namaste Sunil Ji,
>> >
>> > Reg  <<  *The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and
>> > his or her manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika
>> > world,i.e., he or she is in  the manah-shunya state >>,*
>> >
>> > When his or her manah is not affected by the *illusionary Vyavaharika *
>> world,
>> > what **exists**  and is experienced as such by him/her  is just
>> > Atman/Brahman and not shunya/void.  That represents sarvAtmabhAva. Atman
>> > being AnandasvarUpa,  why not say   << *he or she is in  the
>> manah-Ananda
>> >  state >>.*
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Chandramouli
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:53 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
>> > skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear friends,
>> >>
>> >> There was a slip of pen. Please read the last sentence as follows:
>> >>
>> >> * The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or
>> her
>> >> manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or
>> she
>> >> is in  the manah-shunya state.*
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >> skb
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:35 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
>> >> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dear Sreenivasa Murthyji,
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you joking?
>> >>>
>> >>> In case you really got confused by reading my mail, let me assure you
>> >>> that the upanishad talks about the Manah-Shunya state of the Jnani,
>> who
>> >>> reaches the state of Asamprajna Samadhi (or Nirvikalpa samadhi).
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway, let me simplify it a bit. In the beginning of the Original
>> >>> Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna told Arjuna at the very beginning of the
>> >>> Original Bhagavad Gita  that what was there in the past or what would
>> be
>> >>> there in future is not there now and that implies   what is now is as
>> good
>> >>> as not there, i.e., the  Vyavaharika world is illusionary.  The
>> >>> Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her
>> manah
>> >>> is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she
>> is the
>> >>> manah-shunya state.
>> >>>
>> >>> My 2 cents
>> >>> skb
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'sreenivasa murthy' via advaitin <
>> >>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Dear Sri Sunil Bhattachariya,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  Your 2cents coiin which you have offered is a KhOTA coin.
>> >>>> When it is tested in the laboratary of Upanishads it will be found
>> so.
>> >>>> It is a useless one.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ahamevEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1
>> >>>> AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2
>> >>>> AtmA advaitaH || Mandukya mantra7
>> >>>> Please study and these mantras with Sri Shankara's commentary
>> >>>> and ponder over in depth.
>> >>>> You yourself will realize that the statement of yours is  erroneous.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Who is a Jivanmukta?
>> >>>> Is he an entity?
>> >>>> Have you enquired?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> With respectful pranams,
>> >>>> Sreenivasa Murthy
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Monday, 23 January, 2023 at 04:53:57 pm GMT, sunil bhattacharjya <
>> >>>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear Akileshji and friends,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There you are. The Jivanmukta achieves the *Manah-Shunya state*, and
>> >>>> eventually gets liberated when he or she leaves the physical and the
>> >>>> Sukshma bodies.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My 2 cents
>> >>>> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:08 AM Akilesh Ayyar <
>> >>>> akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I’ll just note in this discussion that as far as Ramana Maharshi’s
>> >>>> views — or rather my interpretation of them — the mind is ‘gone’ in
>> the
>> >>>> sense that it never existed. The whole egoic point of view is what
>> sees
>> >>>> both ignorance and the removal of ignorance, the mind ‘before’ the
>> search
>> >>>> and ‘after’ it. Asking whether the jnani’s mind continues after
>> jnana is
>> >>>> itself based in the wrong point of view; the question is founded on
>> wrong
>> >>>> assumptions. That is the point.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Akilesh Ayyar
>> >>>> Spiritual guidance - http://www.siftingtothetruth.com/
>> >>>>
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