[Advaita-l] Fwd: Fwd: Brahman has no default form; Only contextual form - Varaha Purana

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

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From: Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Brahman has no default form; Only contextual
form - Varaha Purana
To: Kaushik Chevendra <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com>


The concept of Leela takes care of the paradox of the AptakAma Ishvara
experiencing (as though) hunger, pain etc.

Rama wept when Sita was kidnapped. That does not militate against his
freedom from avidyA and prArabdha.

So hunger and pain can be as though present (for all practical purposes)
even for avatAras.

On Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 4:52 pm Kaushik Chevendra, <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste sir.
> The difference is quite simple. Even if we accept bagavans shareera as
> bhautika. The feeling of hunger, pain ,death etc are all effects of
> prarbdha karma. No pain can be experienced without any prarabdha karma. So
> if we want to say that bagavan had experienced hunger, pain in his body. We
> will have to admit that there is prarabdha karma for bagavan. Which is not
> at all acceptable
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 3:22 pm Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Sri Krishna was "as though born endowed with a body" (dehavAniva
>> jAtaH) etc, as though ate, as though died etc. But the sharira through
>> which he manifested the Leela was not "as though born", "as though
>> cremated
>> by Arjuna," etc. Its unnecessarily to say that about the bhautika sharIra
>> through which Sri Krishna, a manifestation of Ishvara, was anything other
>> than bhautika. The fact that the sharIra was available for cremation by
>> Arjuna is conclusive evidence for it's bhautikatvaM.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 1:01 pm Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> I am aware of the fact that it is not bhautika. But such a body was
>> > >> 'conceived' in the womb, delivered, grew up, became old, etc.  There
>> is
>> > >> also a mention in the Bhagavatam that Krishna was even wounded by
>> arrows
>> > >> and bled.
>> > >
>> > > The bhautika element of bhagavan's body is only till the fact that
>> it's a
>> > > part of prakriti and not completely different from him.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Please read as "not completely different from prakriti".
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>
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