[Advaita-l] looking for a comparative study on these two topics

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

Can you please give reference to the quote you have cited
//  kArya-kAraNa ananyatva rUpa jnAnena ghaTasya
baadhaH //.

In my understanding, there is no bAdhA involved in clay-pot illustration .

Regards

On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 1:59 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:16 AM Krishna Kashyap via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste  everyone:
> >
> > looking for a comparative study on these two topics
> > 1) substance attribute relationship in Advaita and comparison with other
> > vedantic schools
> > or in other words "guna-guni bhava" or "dharma-dharmi bhava"
> >
> > 2) dictionary meaning of sublate is: sublated; sublating
> >
> > transitive verb <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transitive>
> > 1
> > : NEGATE <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/negate>, DENY
> > <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deny>
> > 2
> > : to negate or eliminate (something, such as an element in a dialectic
> > process) but preserve as a partial element in a synthesis
> > sublation
> > ˌsə-ˈblā-shən
> > <
> >
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sublate?pronunciation&lang=en_us&dir=s&file=sublat02
> > >
> >  noun
> > what is sublatability?
>
>
> Sublation is 'baadha' in Advaita. A pot can be annihilated in two ways: 1.
> by breaking it: this is nAsha. 2. by knowing that it is no different from
> its cause, clay: this is kArya-kAraNa ananyatva rUpa jnAnena ghaTasya
> baadhaH.  As per the Chandogya analogy, the clay products are mere names
> while clay alone is real in them. In the Aparokshanubhuti we have this
> verse:
>
>   Yadwan mrudi ghatabranthim shukthou va rajatha sthithim, Thadwath
> brahmani jeewathwam veekshamano na pasyathi. 59
>
> यद्वन्मृदि घटभ्रान्तिं शुक्तौ वा रजतस्थितिम्।
> तद्वद्ब्रह्मणि जीवत्वं भ्रान्त्या पश्यति न स्वतः।।59।। some variant
> reading. not significant.
>
> The point is, the clay-pot analogy is seen as akin to shell-silver analogy,
> for bhrama.
>
> After the illusion is corrected, one no longer sees a pot in clay and
> silver in shell, so too jivatvam is not perceived in Brahman.
>
> The idea of sublation is used in Advaita in the sense of bAdha, correcting
> an error.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
>
>
> >
> >
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