[Advaita-l] Fwd: [advaitin] Yet another Mahavakya in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste,
samskAra need not be mentioned - as long as the possibility is not denied,
there is nothing to say it is impossible.

Regards
Venkatraghavan


On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 3:48 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> Reg  << True, but that does not amount to a denial of the possibility of
> a samskAra of mahAvAkya shravaNam in the past leading to jnAna in the
> present - to do that, one will have to prove that there can be no
> pratibandhas to the rise of jnAna after mahAvAkya shravaNam, and I have not
> come across any pramANa for such a postulate >>,
>
> I did not say that there can be no pratibandhas to the rise of jnAna after
> mahAvAkya shravaNam. In fact most of the times, such pratibandhas do
> obstruct the rise of jnana. Sri Bhasgavatpada himself mentions it in BSB
> 4-1-1 that repetitive shravana/manana/nididhyasana  is required  to be
> carried out till the rise of  aparoksha jnAna. SamskAra is not mentioned.
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:29 PM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste,
>> "Sri Bhagavatpada specifically declares in a number of places that
>> Realization is instantaneous and coterminus with mahAvAkya shravaNa. For
>> example please refer Upadesha Sahasri, metric part, chapter 18, verses
>> 103/104."
>>
>> True, but that does not amount to a denial of the possibility of a
>> samskAra of mahAvAkya shravaNam in the past leading to jnAna in the present
>> - to do that, one will have to prove that there can be no pratibandhas to
>> the rise of jnAna after mahAvAkya shravaNam, and I have not come across any
>> pramANa for such a postulate.
>>
>> It is like saying I see that knowledge "this is a pot" is coterminus with
>> the senses making contact with the pot. Everyone will agree with that, with
>> the caveat that pot will have to be well lit as well.
>>
>> If darkness obscures the pot, I will not be able to see it, even when the
>> senses make contact with the pot.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Venkatraghavan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, 11:05 H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>
>>> Sri Bhagavatpada specifically declares in a number of places that
>>> Realization is instantaneous and coterminus with mahAvAkya shravaNa. For
>>> example please refer Upadesha Sahasri, metric part, chapter 18, verses
>>> 103/104.
>>
>>