[Advaita-l] Ekadashi

[Aravind M]

Sri sannidanam vidushekara bharathi swami said in srirangam vijaya yatra
2017 that a man approached him and asked liberation for his entire
family...achairyal said"u have to attain chitta shuddi,leave ur family
 and do Vedanta  enquiry to do that.It is not a simple step like a family
package tour to a tourist place

On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 5:44 PM Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I never said bhakthi is not necessary..Nama is purifying .it is
> indispensable.But i don't agree with the nama siddhanta acharyas who says
> there is no need fr sannyasa and vedantha vicharam.Bhakthi itself leads to
> moksham...Swami omkarananda made a strong statement in madras sanskrit
> college when he was talking on shankara bashyam that"If nama alone can lead
> to moksha,then why to learn shankara bhasyam and do Vedanta
> vichaaram...???????
>
> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 5:35 PM Vinodh, <vinodh.iitm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaskaram
>>
>> The original post is a very nice message on the importance of bhakthi for
>> Advaita saadhakas and especially relevant on the day of Ekadashi.
>>
>> The main role of Bhakthi is the removal of one’s ego which is a major
>> hurdle in the path of jnana. By performing Ishwara-arpana (submission to
>> the Lord) of one’s thoughts, speech, and actions, one’s ego is removed
>> completely and this lets the jnana shine through clearly in the mind like
>> the sun shines when the clouds are removed.
>>
>> One may ask why would an advaita jnani have bhakthi at all? Because for
>> there to be bhakthi, there needs to be a worshipper and one who is
>> worshipped, which implies dvaita. Still, we do have several examples of
>> Advaita jnanas who have expressed bhakthi bhava, like Shankara himself for
>> example. There does not seem to be any explanation for this. Perhaps it is
>> because the Parabrahmam is of the very nature of love, which is no
>> different from bhakthi?
>>
>> Om tat sat 🙏
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed 21. Jul 2021 at 16:53, Aravind M via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a special topic in kanchi periyava deivatin kural 6th volume
>>> as"uchakata gnanam turavikae"...Janaka though was managing the kingdom
>>> got
>>> gnana upadesam from rishis ..How many grihastas in this age got maha
>>> vakya
>>> upadesam from a Sannyasi acharya
>>>
>>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 4:48 PM Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Can u tell some of grihasta jeevan muktha gnanis   from kali yugam...
>>> >
>>> > On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:41 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>> > chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Here is an expert from discourse of mahasanidham.
>>> >>
>>> >> D: Does Your Holiness opine that householders cannot get jñāna and
>>> >> attain mokṣa?
>>> >> HH: No. They too can attain jñāna and mokṣa. However, their path is
>>> >> tougher. An unmarried mumukṣu (one keen on mokṣa), especially
>>> >> one who is a saṁnyāsin, can remain away from causes of mental
>>> >> distraction and lead a life directed wholly to the attainment of
>>> mokṣa.
>>> >> Householders, however, have to live with familial responsibilities
>>> >> and deal with situations that are unfavourable. Nevertheless, it is
>>> >> incorrect to contend that they cannot secure jñāna. Janaka and
>>> >> such other householders were jñānins.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:11 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Why aadi shankara took avatar as a Sannyasi..
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:06 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>> >>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Namaste.
>>> >>>> Grihasthi ashrama isn't something that restricts gnana. As long as
>>> the
>>> >>>> householder has a vairagi bhava and lives in accordance to dharma
>>> he is
>>> >>>> eligible for moksha.
>>> >>>> And unflinching devotion is what I meant when I said "surrender to
>>> >>>> isvara".
>>> >>>> So when a person has unflinching devotion to the Lord and is
>>> engaged in
>>> >>>> isvara nama smarana he is saved.
>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:00 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> In that march 2021 issue,maha sannidanam mentioned "nama leads to
>>> >>>>> attaining paramatma"..But he never mentioned that we will attain
>>> that in
>>> >>>>> this birth itself staying in grihasta ashrama,doing all lowkkeega
>>> stuffs
>>> >>>>> and also chant name in the name of pseudo-bhakthi as many nama
>>> sankirtan
>>> >>>>> vidwans are doing...only a Sannyasi who got the maha vakya
>>> upadesam is the
>>> >>>>> authority for gnana
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 12:40 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>> >>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> And this is the statement of bagavtpada in the last stanza of
>>> "bhaja
>>> >>>>>> govindam"-
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> *bhajagovindaM bhajagovindaM govindaM bhajamuuDhamate .
>>> >>>>>> naamasmaraNaadanyamupaayaM nahi pashyaamo bhavataraNe .. (33) *
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> *Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool !
>>> Other
>>> >>>>>> than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross
>>> the life's
>>> >>>>>> ocean.*
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> And the works of "narayaneeyam" and "gudartha dipika" by advaita
>>> >>>>>> acharyas specify the importance of bhakthi. It's not a mere form
>>> of "chitta
>>> >>>>>> sudhi".
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 11:52 Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>> >>>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Namaste sir.
>>> >>>>>>> Its true that the attainment of gnana alone leads to liberation.
>>> But
>>> >>>>>>> the aspect of devotion is nowhere given less importance. This
>>> has been
>>> >>>>>>> stated many times by shri abhinava tirtha swamin in his
>>> discourses. In now
>>> >>>>>>> way can knowledge be attained without the grace and of guru and
>>> isvara.
>>> >>>>>>> And for people who completely surrender to isvara, the aspect of
>>> >>>>>>> "krama mukthi" is accepted. So, there is no rule that it has to
>>> come after
>>> >>>>>>> many births.
>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the power of nama smarana, here is a link to the
>>> >>>>>>> discourses of jagadguru - "
>>> >>>>>>> http://www.tattvaloka.com/jagadguru-speaks". The discourse in
>>> March
>>> >>>>>>> 2021 under " Chant the names of Lord and attain highest good"
>>> the power of
>>> >>>>>>> nama smarana is given. There is also a discourse in telugu given
>>> by him in
>>> >>>>>>> 2013 regarding the greatness of smarana- "
>>> >>>>>>> https://youtu.be/LqLkkwWm1cY".
>>> >>>>>>> From jagadgurus discourses it's evident the power of nama smarana
>>> >>>>>>> and bakthi shouldn't be compared to other rituals. Bakthi indeed
>>> is
>>> >>>>>>> superior to them.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> And I have no way indicated inferiority of other gods. It was
>>> >>>>>>> ekadashi, a special day to narayana and vaishnavas. And hence I
>>> had a few
>>> >>>>>>> thoughts about the immeasurable daya and splendor of narayana
>>> and shared it
>>> >>>>>>> in the group. And other than a praise of him and a rememberance
>>> of him, it
>>> >>>>>>> had no other intention.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Om namo narayana.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 10:24 Venkatesh Murthy, <
>>> vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Namaste
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Our Sampradaya has laid down Panchayatana Puja to worship
>>> Ganesha,
>>> >>>>>>>> Shiva. Vishnu, Shakti and Surya. There is a reason for this. We
>>> should not
>>> >>>>>>>> become fanatics of one God and quarrel with devotees of other
>>> Gods. It will
>>> >>>>>>>> be a big obstacle for us if we become fanatics. Every God is a
>>> form of
>>> >>>>>>>> Saguna Brahma. No God is inferior and nobody is superior.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l
>>> <
>>> >>>>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Namaste subbu sir.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, 23:18 V Subrahmanian, <
>>> >>>>>>>>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> > Dear Kaushik,
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>> > You have beautifully articulated the position of the Shastra
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>> our
>>> >>>>>>>>> > sampradaya.  Your post, though short, is full of wisdom.
>>> Thanks
>>> >>>>>>>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>> > sharing your thoughts.
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>> > warm regards
>>> >>>>>>>>> > subbu
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:14 PM Kaushik Chevendra via
>>> Advaita-l <
>>> >>>>>>>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> The differences between the school of advaita and dvaita are
>>> >>>>>>>>> many. But the
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> CHATNTING of harinama and sublime devotion to vishnu is the
>>> >>>>>>>>> common and
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> most
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> important aspect in both the school. In the age of kali, it
>>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>> said that
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> no
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> penance, austerity, charity etc has the same fruit as the
>>> >>>>>>>>> rememberance of
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> hari nama. The last verse in "bhaja govindam"says "There is
>>> no
>>> >>>>>>>>> other
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> measure to escape samsara other than rememberance of hari
>>> >>>>>>>>> nama". It's said
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> that narayana finds some excuse to lift people from samsara.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Such is his
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> daya ,he is the uplifter of sinners,he is "patita pavana".
>>> He
>>> >>>>>>>>> always
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> protects his devotees. People who hated hari, such as kamsa,
>>> >>>>>>>>> sisupala etc,
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> too were given mukti because they constantly thought about
>>> him.
>>> >>>>>>>>> He is an
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ocean of daya and forgiveness. Being sarvasaktha isvara he
>>> >>>>>>>>> underwent
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> samsara as rama, to show us how to live a life according to
>>> >>>>>>>>> dharma. He
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> gave
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> the essence of Upanishads in the form of krishna to save the
>>> >>>>>>>>> people of
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> kali.  Today being ekadashi, this day belongs to narayana.
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> Just a few thoughts I had on this auspicious day.
>>> >>>>>>>>> >> Om namo narayanaya.
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