[Advaita-l] Questions regarding the Isa Upanishad verse 1

[Anil Aggarwal]

One of more succinct commentaries is by Swami Parmarthananda Saraswatiji
You can find on the web he is a disciple of Swami Dayananda and Swami Chinmayananda. 
I will send you the link
Anil


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> On Oct 31, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Kartik Vashishta via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> 
> OM
> OM NAMAH SIVANANDAYA
> 
> Revered Self,
> 
> Sadar Pranam,
> 
> Thank you for pointing me to the santi mantra of the Isa Upanishad. My
> questions were, however, regarding the first verse of the Isa Upanishad
> proper. I am however thrice blessed that I could find some very needed
> guidance on the Santi Mantra.
> If someone could direct me to a resource on the first verse of the Isa
> Upanishad I'll be very grateful. I have the Isa Upanishad commentaries by
> the monks of the Ramakrishna order and am also reading Sri Sri Swami
> Krishnananda Ji's works on it as well.
> 
> Maybe too many books lead to more ignorance......I'm however at a loss to
> find resources to imbibe the first mantra. Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Pranam,
> 
> OM
> Kartik Vashishta
> OM
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:00 AM Kartik Vashishta <kartik.unix at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Namaste,
>> 
>> No derogatory sense is applied/implied etc....
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:15 AM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Namaste.
>>> 
>>> Also in what sense are you addressing the Swamiji as **blessed**, **
>>> highly blessed** etc so repeatedly? In a derogative sense??
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 6:35 PM H S Chandramouli <
>>> hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Namaste.
>>>> 
>>>> Reg  <<  Doubt: How can something that is not full be
>>>> "ever-enduring"...also, since
>>>> it is a part and hence not "ever-enduring" it is not real...is the
>>>> blessed
>>>> Swami contradicting himself?  >>,
>>>> 
>>>> Where in this portion has the Swamiji stated what you have attributed to
>>>> him here
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 9:25 AM Kartik Vashishta via Advaita-l <
>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OM
>>>>> OM NAMAH SIVANANDAYA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Revered Self,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sadar Pranam,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blessed be thou, I have some doubts on reading the blessed Sri Sri Swami
>>>>> Krishnananda Ji's book. Please kindly remove my doubts:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.swami-krishnananda.org/essay/essay_1.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is full; this is full. From the full the full proceeds. Taking the
>>>>> full from the full, the full alone remains. That Absolute is full. This
>>>>> created being is also full. Brahman is infinitude and is therefore full.
>>>>> That which proceeds from the full or the infinite must be either real or
>>>>> unreal. If it is real, it must also be full, because a part cannot be
>>>>> ever-enduring, and that which is not always enduring is not real.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doubt: How can something that is not full be "ever-enduring"...also,
>>>>> since
>>>>> it is a part and hence not "ever-enduring" it is not real...is the
>>>>> blessed
>>>>> Swami contradicting himself?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it is unreal, nothing proceeds at all. This means to say that either
>>>>> infinity is the product of infinity or nothing proceeds from infinity.
>>>>> Infinity cannot proceed from infinity, because, thereby, there would be
>>>>> two
>>>>> infinities. Hence, the proceeding of infinity from infinity does not
>>>>> change
>>>>> infinity, because infinity alone remains even after that. The drift of
>>>>> the
>>>>> statement is that infinity is unchanging and this mantra is a figurative
>>>>> way of saying that nothing proceeds from infinity.
>>>>> Doubt: How did the Swami arrive at this conclusion, please, nblessed be
>>>>> thou, explain.
>>>>> Even the idea of something proceeding from infinity is based on its
>>>>> essential character of infinity. That which is produced, namely,
>>>>> Hiranyagarbha, or the universe, must be infinite. Otherwise there
>>>>> should be
>>>>> something outside Hiranyagarbha, or the universe. The universe includes
>>>>> space, also, and beyond space there is nothing. Therefore, the universe
>>>>> is
>>>>> infinite. Even the individual that is created is essentially infinite.
>>>>> Taking infinity from infinity is only an idea and not a possibility.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doubt: The blessed and highly blessed Swami seems to suggest that there
>>>>> are
>>>>> two more i"infinities" besides Brahman, namely, Hirayanaghabrbha and the
>>>>> individual self. Please blessed be thou, explain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore, the infinite alone exists without change in past, present and
>>>>> future. Om Santih, Santih, Santih - May the three tapas (afflictions)
>>>>> cease, and may there be peace.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doubt: Hari Om! By the grace of God/Guru, I probably understand this,
>>>>> however, not the reasoning behind it as stated in my questions above.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All this is pervaded by the Lord, whatever is moving (and not moving) in
>>>>> this world. By such renunciation enjoy (or protect). Do not covet the
>>>>> wealth of anyone. Vasyam or avasyam means fit to be dwelt by or clothed
>>>>> by
>>>>> or covered over by. The universe is to be covered over by the
>>>>> consciousness
>>>>> of God. It means that God indwells every being of the universe. But this
>>>>> indwelling does not in any way create a distinction between the
>>>>> indweller
>>>>> and the indwelled. The Lord exists as the innermost Self of all. The
>>>>> Self,
>>>>> however, cannot pervade itself. Pervasion, here, means existence. The
>>>>> universe in essence is the truth of God Himself. It does not exist as an
>>>>> object to be covered over by God, like cloth, etc. There is nothing in
>>>>> this
>>>>> universe which can have any value or being without the existence of God.
>>>>> This is to say that God is the sole existence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doubt: How is "The Self, however, cannot pervade itself" that to be
>>>>> explained?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pranam,
>>>>> 
>>>>> OM
>>>>> Kartik Vashishta
>>>>> OM
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