[Advaita-l] A replica of Adhyasa Bhashya in the Gita Bhashya13.26 (V Subrahmanian)

[V Subrahmanian]

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:08 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> << On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:26 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> स्वेनैव कल्पिते देशे व्योम्नि यद्वद्घटादिकम् ।
> तथा जीवाश्रिताऽविद्यां मन्यन्ते ज्ञानकोविदाः ॥
>
> A pot for example, comes into being in the vast space and occupies a place
> even while containing (pot)space within it. In the same way the jiva comes
> into being and occupies a place in avidyA even while containing avidyA
> within itself.  Thus do the wise hold.
>
> >Would anyone please provide the reference of the above verse/mantra? >>,
>
> Namaste.
>
> This verse is cited in NyAyAmruta in support of its contention that jIva
> cannot be Ashraya for avidyA. However it does not mention its origin.
> Curiously in its response Advaita Sidhi cites the same verse and gives a
> different interpretation to it, and contends that the verse does not
> conflict with the contention of Sri Vachaspati Mishra in Bhamati that jIva
> is the Ashraya for avidyA. Refer अद्वैतसिद्धिः
>
> , अथाज्ञानवादेऽविद्याया वाचस्पतिसम्मतजीवाश्रयत्वोपपत्तिः (advaitasiddhiH
>
> , athAj~nAnavAde.avidyAyA vAchaspatisammatajIvAshrayatvopapattiH ),
> Ananthakrishna Shastri Edition.
>
> However I must confess I am unable to make out which view the
> interpretation given above supports !! No offence meant. It is just that I
> do not understand it properly.
> Regards
>

Thanks for referring to the Advaitasiddhi. I checked for this in the
Advaitasharada and found that it is cited only by Madhusudana Saraswati and
not by Sri Vyasa Tirtha:

अथाज्ञानवादेऽविद्याया वाचस्पतिसम्मतजीवाश्रयत्वोपपत्तिः

वाचस्पतिमिश्रैस्तु जीवाश्रितैवाऽविद्या निगद्यते । ननु जीवाश्रिताऽविद्या
तत्प्रतिबिम्बितचैतन्यं वा, तदवच्छिन्नचतन्यं वा, तत्कल्पितभेदं वा जीवः; तथा
चान्योन्याश्रय इति चेन्न; किमयमन्योन्याश्रय उत्पत्तौ, ज्ञप्तौ, स्थितौ वा ।
नाद्यः; अनादित्वादुभयोः । न द्वितीयः; अज्ञानस्य चिद्भास्यत्वेऽपि चितेः
स्वप्रकाशत्वेन तदभास्यत्वात् । न तृतीयः; स किं परस्पराश्रितत्वेन वा,
परस्परसापेक्षस्थितिकत्वेन वा स्यात् । तन्न; उभयस्याप्यसिद्धेः, अज्ञानस्य
चिदाश्रयत्वे चिदधीनस्थितिकत्वेऽपि चिति
अविद्याश्रितत्वतदधीनस्थितिकत्वयोरभावात् । न चैवमन्योन्याधीनताक्षतिः;
समानकालीनयोरप्यवच्छेद्यावच्छेदकभावमात्रेण तदुपपत्तेः, घटतदवच्छिन्नाकाशयोरिव
प्रमाणप्रमेययोरिव च। तदुक्तं *‘स्वेनैव कल्पिते देशे व्योम्नि यद्वत्
घटादिकम् । तथा जीवाश्रयाविद्यां मन्यन्ते* *ज्ञानकोविदाः*' इति ।
एतेन–यद्युत्पत्तिज्ञप्तिमात्रप्रतिबन्धकत्वेनान्योन्यापेक्षताया अदोषत्वं,
तदा चैत्रमैत्रादेरन्योन्यारोहणाद्यापत्तिरिति—निरस्तम् ;
परस्परमाश्रयाश्रयिभावस्यानङ्गीकारात् । न चेश्वरजीवयोरीश्वरजीवकल्पितत्वे
आत्माश्रयः, जीवेशकल्पितत्वे चान्योन्याश्रयः, न च शुद्धा चित् कल्पिका, तस्या
अज्ञानाभावादिति वाच्यम् ; जीवाश्रिताया अविद्याया एव
जीवेशकल्पकत्वेनैतद्विकल्पानवकाशात् ।
तस्माज्जीवाश्रयत्वेऽप्यदोषः ॥
॥ इत्यद्वैतसिद्धौ अज्ञानस्य जीवाश्रयत्वोपपत्तिः ॥

regards
subbu

>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:26 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> स्वेनैव कल्पिते देशे व्योम्नि यद्वद्घटादिकम् ।
>> तथा जीवाश्रिताऽविद्यां मन्यन्ते ज्ञानकोविदाः ॥
>>
>> A pot for example, comes into being in the vast space and occupies a place
>> even while containing (pot)space within it. In the same way the jiva comes
>> into being and occupies a place in avidyA even while containing avidyA
>> within itself.  Thus do the wise hold.
>>
>> >Would anyone please provide the reference of the above verse/mantra?
>>
>> Sri Anand Hudli had replied:
>>
>> Among the schools of advaita, the bhAmatI school has accepted the theory
>> that the locus of avidyA is the individual soul, jIva. VAcaspati says
>> in his bhAmatI (1.1.4), "na avidyA brahmAshrayA kiM tu jIve." The quote
>> is probably from a later work, since I have seen a similar shloka in
>> prakAshAnanda's Vedanta siddhAnta muktAvalI. amalAnanda, the author of
>> the vedAnta-kalpataru commentary on the bhAmatI, also has defended
>> vAcaspati's position. It is often pointed out that vAcaspati's position
>> is similar to that of maNDana mishra in his brahmasiddhi, where he says,
>>  "yattu kasya avidyeti, jIvAnAm iti brUmaH".
>>
>> regards
>> subbu
>>
>>
>> >
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