[Advaita-l] शास्त्रविधानस्य उत्सृजनम् (BG 17.1)

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

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<< Sri Krishna mentions that the three categories of persons are to be
identified by their acts. He proceeds to cover various acts in the
succeeding verses. The verse 17-3 cited by you concerns one type of act
namely yagna performed by  one of these three categories, namely tAmasik.
The word  श्रद्धाविरहितं (shraddhAvirahitaM) therein is to be understood as
* casual/disinterested * (अश्रध्धा/ ashradhdhA  is the explanatory word in
kannada used by Sri SSS) >>,

Please read 17-13 for 17-3.

Regards

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:22 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Namaste Sriram Ji,
>>
>> Reg  << However, Shankara says :
>>
>> सामान्यविषयः अयं प्रश्नो न अप्रविभज्य प्रतिवचनं अर्हति इति  >>,
>>
>> Yes. This is in response to the question by Arjuna
>>
>> << ये शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य
>> यजन्ते श्रद्धयान्विताः ।
>> तेषां निष्ठा तु का कृष्ण
>> सत्त्वमाहो रजस्तमः ॥  >>   17-1.
>>
>> <<  ye shAstravidhimutsRRijya
>>
>> yajante shraddhayAnvitAH |
>>
>> teShAM niShThA tu kA kRRiShNa
>>
>> sattvamAho rajastamaH || >>   17-1
>>
>> Bhashya cited by you as above clearly mentions that the question is of a
>> very general nature and cannot be answered without subdivision. The
>> response of Sri Krishna as expounded in Ch 17 in its entirety is to
>> subdivide this subset of human beings, namely those who are not guided in
>> their acts by Shruti, but their acts are not out of just their own sweet
>> will and pleasure either, but guided by the acts of elders, into three
>> categories. This subset is made clear in the bhashya itself
>>
>> << ये केचित् अविशेषिताः शास्त्रविधिं शास्त्रविधानं
>> श्रुतिस्मृतिशास्त्रचोदनाम् उत्सृज्य परित्यज्य यजन्ते देवादीन् पूजयन्ति
>> श्रद्धया अन्विताः श्रद्धया आस्तिक्यबुद्ध्या अन्विताः संयुक्ताः सन्तः —
>> श्रुतिलक्षणं स्मृतिलक्षणं वा कञ्चित् शास्त्रविधिम् अपश्यन्तः
>> वृद्धव्यवहारदर्शनादेव श्रद्दधानतया ये देवादीन् पूजयन्ति, ते इह ‘ये
>> शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य यजन्ते श्रद्धयान्विताः’ इत्येवं गृह्यन्ते । >>
>>
>> << ye kechit avisheShitAH shAstravidhiM shAstravidhAnaM
>> shrutismRRitishAstrachodanAm utsRRijya parityajya yajante devAdIn pUjayanti
>> shraddhayA anvitAH shraddhayA AstikyabuddhyA anvitAH saMyuktAH santaH —
>> shrutilakShaNaM smRRitilakShaNaM vA ka~nchit shAstravidhim apashyantaH
>> vRRiddhavyavahAradarshanAdeva shraddadhAnatayA ye devAdIn pUjayanti, te iha
>> ‘ye shAstravidhimutsRRijya yajante shraddhayAnvitAH’ ityevaM gRRihyante |
>> >>.
>>
>> Reg  << So, for the shloka:
>>
>> ये शास्त्रविधिमुत्सृज्य यजन्ते श्रद्धयाऽन्विताः।
>> तेषां निष्ठा तु का कृष्ण सत्त्वमाहो रजस्तमः।।17.1।।
>>
>> ye shAstravidhimutsRRijya yajante shraddhayA.anvitAH|
>>
>> teShAM niShThA tu kA kRRiShNa sattvamAho rajastamaH||17.1||
>>
>> can we conclude the answer to be:
>>
>> विधिहीनमसृष्टान्नं मन्त्रहीनमदक्षिणम्।
>> श्रद्धाविरहितं यज्ञं तामसं परिचक्षते।।17.13।।
>>
>> vidhihInamasRRiShTAnnaM mantrahInamadakShiNam|
>>
>> shraddhAvirahitaM yaj~naM tAmasaM parichakShate||17.13|| >>.
>>
>> Clearly no. The answer for 17-1 in a nutshell is 17-2
>>
>> << त्रिविधा भवति श्रद्धा
>> देहिनां सा स्वभावजा ।
>> सात्त्विकी राजसी चैव
>> तामसी चेति तां शृणु ॥ >>  17-2
>>
>> <<  trividhA bhavati shraddhA
>>
>> dehinAM sA svabhAvajA |
>>
>> sAttvikI rAjasI chaiva
>>
>> tAmasI cheti tAM shRRiNu || >>  17-2
>>
>> As an answer to the question by Arjuna, three categories are identified
>> by Sri Krishna as above in 17-2, and  briefly elaborated in 17-4. The three
>> are sAtvik,rAjasik and tAmasik.
>>
>> Sri Krishna mentions that the three categories of persons are to be
>> identified by their acts. He proceeds to cover various acts in the
>> succeeding verses. The verse 17-3 cited by you concerns one type of act
>> namely yagna performed by  one of these three categories, namely tAmasik.
>> The word  श्रद्धाविरहितं (shraddhAvirahitaM) therein is to be understood
>> as * casual/disinterested * (अश्रध्धा/ ashradhdhA  is the explanatory
>> word in kannada used by Sri SSS).
>>
>> Reg  << I was discussing this also with one scholar and he said that the
>> 1st shloka which is posed as question should be disassociated with this
>> chapter and should be observed independently >>,
>>
>> Such a view  is not supported  in the discourses of Swami Shankarananda
>> or of Sri SSS. I do not see any valid reason for the same either.
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>