[Advaita-l] Cause and Effect

[Durga Prasad Janaswamy]

Hari Om,
Namaste.

Cause (कारण)  and Effect (कार्य) have same level of reality (सम सत्ता).

However 'substratum (अधिष्ठान)' and   'Cause and Effect' can have same
level of reality or different levels of reality.
In case of भ्रम (delusion), अरोपित , कल्पित, अध्यस्थ ,    the 'substratum'
 and    'Cause and Effect' will have different levels of reality.

thanks and regards
-- durga prasad

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:22 AM H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> Sorry. Forgot to answer the query by Durga Ji in respect of dream,
> rope-serpent etc. kAraNa (avidyA) and kArya (these creations)  enjoy
> different levels of sattA.
>
> Regards
>
>
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> > Namaste.
> >
> > In continuation to my last statement in the previous post, dream and
> > rope-serpent like creations are pariNAma of avidyA no doubt, kAraNa-kArya
> > only. But each and every creation therein is a direct transformation of
> > avidyA, without any sequential or followup transformation from one
> creation
> > to another. That is the distinction from the vyAvahArika state creation.
> >
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> >
> >> <<  On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:42 AM Durga Prasad Janaswamy via Advaita-l
> >> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hari Om,
> >> Namaste.
> >>
> >> Should Cause (कारण)  and Effect (कार्य) have same level of reality (सम
> >> सत्ता) ?  Are there any exceptions? >>,
> >>
> >> Namaste.
> >>
> >> All entities in Creation derive their aspect of नाम-रूप (nAma-rUpa),
> >> Name and Form,  by way of pariNAma (transformation)  of  the fundamental
> >> material (upAdAna), avidyA. Hence avidyA is termed the उपादान (upAdAna)
> >> for the entire Creation. This process of pariNAma (transformation)  is
> also
> >> termed  कारण-कार्य (kAraNa-kArya) (C and E). Both कारण-कार्य
> >> (kAraNa-kArya) (C and E) enjoy  सम सत्ता (sama sattA), same level of
> >> sattA namely व्यावहारिक सत्ता (vyAvahArika sattA).
> >>
> >> All these entities in Creation derive their aspect of existence (sattA)
> >> from  Brahman, सत्य (satya), THE Only Existent, which enjoys पारमार्थिक
> >> सत्ता  (pAramArthika sattA). In this context, in the BhAshya, Brahman is
> >> also termed The कारण (kAraNa) for the entire Creation, which is कार्य
> (kArya)
> >> (including avidyA). Here, Brahman (THE kAraNa) and Creation (kArya)
> enjoy विषम
> >> सत्ता (vishama sattA), differennt levels of existence or sattA.
> >>
> >> Dream and entities like rope-serpent enjoy a third level of sattA
> namely  प्रातिभासिक
> >> सत्ता (prAtibhasika sattA). They are of the nature of impressions
> >> projected  by avidyA and are not considered to conform to kAraNa-kArya
> >> category. I stand to correction in this regard.
> >> Regards
> >>
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