[Advaita-l] Is empathy a function of ahamkara?

[श्रीमल्ललितालालितः]

Just replace the word samavAyI with upAdAna and change the relation from
samavAya to tAdAtmya.
There is no other difference.



On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 14:38 H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Pranams.
>
> Reg  <<  The difference in quality of Milk and curd must be defined
> because of the difference of asamavAyI-kAraNa >>,
>
> I think your response is from the nyAya viewpoint since you keep on
> bringingup samavAyi and asamavAyi kASraNa. Advaita Sidhanta does not
> conform to the nyAya view in this regard. It accepts the mImAmsa (bhAtta)
> view. My responses are from that viewpoint.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:07 PM श्रीमल्ललितालालितः via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > *श्रीमल्ललितालालितः*www.lalitaalaalitah.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > The answer is a clear NO. As per Advaita SidhAnta, vyAvahArika entities
> > > (kaaryas) can and do have a kArya-kAraNa sambandha with their upAdAna
> > > kAraNam in many cases.
> >
> >
> > kArya-kAraNa-bhAva is not a relation.
> > You need another relation from those which are clearly defined by others
> > and accepted or corrected by vedAntin-s.
> >
> > > Cause and Effect sambandha.Not necessarily always
> > > tAdAtmya sambandha. Milk transforming into curds is one such case.
> >
> >
> > I appreciate that you presented your views here. It has helped me
> > understand from where your perception arises.
> > Milk is not upAdAna-kAraNa of curd, it's avayava-s are. And they are
> still
> > undestroyed. The difference in quality of Milk and curd must be defined
> > because of the difference of asamavAyI-kAraNa.
> >
> > > They do
> > > not exist simultaneously at the same time. They are observed or
> > experienced
> > > separately from each other.
> >
> >
> > This observation is correct, but doesn't apply to the upAdAna which is
> > common to Milk and Curd, both.
> >
> > > TadAtmya sambandha is spoken of only in those
> > > cases where two entities originate simultaneously from an identical
> > cause.
> > >
> >
> > Half correct.
> > No need for things to be generated simultaneously.
> > Red and Black color arising at different times in the same pot have
> > tAdAtmya.
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