[Advaita-l] How is an object perceived.

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 06:21:31 EDT 2020


Pranams.

Incidentally, this is exactly what is missing in SB postulate that Prof
Bina Gupta has referred to.

Regards

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:45 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,
>
> I think there is a fundamental difference in our respective understanding.
> In all perception  of objects, the Subject Consciousness “ I “ should
> coincide with the Object defined Consciousness or Consciousness limited by
> the Object for knowledge of the object to take place. It is always the
>  चैतन्यं (chaitanyaM), as limited by the respective upAdhIs,  that is
> involved in  the process of gaining knowledge of objects. Not the Objects
> per se. This is my understanding. I am not sure your reasoning accords with
> this. I could be misunderstanding your view point. Please clarify before I
> proceed further.
>
> Terminology may not pass the test of rigour. But I hope the intent is
> clear enough. I may be pardoned for laxity in this regard.
>
> Pranams and Regards
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:54 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda <
> kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Chandramouliji - PraNAms
>>
>> Just some thoughts.
>>
>> I think that the idea of mind going out with the senses and envelope the
>> object comes from puurva meemamsa which Advaita also adopted it. The mind
>> going out applies only for a sense of sight and hearing. For the sense of
>> touch, taste, and smell, the object comes in contact with the senses
>> directly. The senses are part of anthaH karana and hence direct input to
>> the mind contributes to its vRitti.
>>
>> In the final analysis, a vRitti, related to the object, forms in the mind
>> with contents of the vRitti corresponds to the sensory input. If the senses
>> are defective then the input is also defective (say color blind) then the
>> contents of the vRitti depend on the sensory input than the object content
>> per sec. This is also the reason when errors in perception can occur since
>> the sensory input is incomplete or defective.
>>
>> In addition, when we see an object we get only the frontal view of the
>> object and not total view. If the mind grasps the whole object then the
>> whole object should be seen. Also,
>> we get a stereo image due to the eyes displaced by 7 deg. In a way, it is
>> more accurate to say that the information coming to the eyes than the sense
>> of sight going out with the mind to wrap the object.
>>
>> The basic postulate of Advaita is the consciousness that 'I am' unites
>> with the existence of the object as imaged in the vRitti for me to be
>> conscious of the existence of the vRitti and therefore conscious of the
>> existence of the object out there.
>>
>> The rest is mechanics which can differ without violating the basics of
>> Advaita. Hence Kena says -consciousness is revealed in every thought -
>> pratibodha viditam matam. That is what I feel. One can always contest this.
>> VP has provided what has been understood up to that point in contrast to
>> the other theories of perception.
>>
>> Hari Om!
>> Sadananda
>>
>>
>>
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