[Advaita-l] Iswara in Upanishads

[V Subrahmanian]

http://talkandcomment.com/p/52ac2260d5642005463e5277 (voice note)

regards

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:31 AM Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Sadaji
>
> I am surprised someone is making such a statement! It is contrary to the
> spirit of the Vedas captured in the very famous mantra from mahAnArAyaNa
> upaniShad, which most people will know as it is used in nitya pUja -
> यो वेदादौ स्वरः प्रोक्तो वेदान्ते च प्रतिष्ठितः।
> तस्य प्रकृतिलीनस्य यः परः स महेश्वरः॥
> He is there in the beginning of the Vedas as the praNava and he is the one
> who is established by the very end of Vedas, he pervades everything in
> creation as the primordial prakriti, yet he is beyond it all! That is
> Ishvara.
>
> A few other places where the term Ishvara appears -
>
> एष *सर्वेश्वर* एष भूताधिपतिरेष भूतपाल:
> Br up. 4.4.22
>
> एष सर्वेश्वर एष सर्वज्ञ एषोऽन्तर्याम्येष योनिः सर्वस्य प्रभवाप्ययौ हि
> भूतानाम् mANDUkya 6
>
> Of course there is the famous shvetAshvatara mantra quoted by Sri Subbuji.
> Besides these, t plhere are many  instances when Ishvara is referred to in
> different names - svayambhU, satyakAma, satyasamkalpa etc.
>
> By the way the very question presupposes a difference between Ishvara and
> Brahman. What is the basis for such a presupposition? The same entity that
> is referred to by यतो वा इमानि भूतानि जायन्ते is the one who is also साक्षी
> चेता केवलो निर्गुणश्च.
>
> Kind regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, 15:57 kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > PraNAms to all
> > Someone says that Iswara does not appear in Vedas only Brahman is
> > mentioned.
> > Any references to Iswara in the Vedas (Vedanta)?
> > Hari Om!Sadananda
> >
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