[Advaita-l] Question about Sri Vidyaranya's JMV & jnani matra
Anand Hudli
anandhudli at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 3 23:51:26 EDT 2019
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:47 AM Srinath Vedagarbha via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
Then you have to admit at least such existence of prArabdha is outside the
scope of avidya kalpita jagat. Otherwise it also should have destroyed when
jnAna is realized. This leads to advaita hAni. All arguments using arrow
(already left from the bow) or inertia of potter's wheel, are all useless
as the causes of such things are not related to each other.
>>
No use arguing with you. This has been my experience in the past. The
problem is that you seem to be neither a sincere seeker of advaita
information, nor a well read dvaitin. So I am not interested in arguing
with you. This will be my last message to you in this forum. Any further
objections from you will go unanswered by me.
My answer to the objection above: No, there is no advaitahAni. All
discussion of jIvanmukti is at the vyAvahArika level, since in reality,
there is no seeker, no bondage, and no liberation. Since we are talking now
at the vyAvahArika level, there will be duality, i.e. avidyA, avidyAlesha,
prArabdha, etc. Nothing wrong here.
Anand
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:32 AM Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com> wrote:
> We have, in the past on this list, discussed the eka-jIva-vAda as being
> the siddhanta prescribed for advanced seekers. It may be useful to see
> that, in the context of EJV/DSV, the question relating to a jnAni and his
> activities, sense of having a body, etc. gets transformed with an entirely
> different meaning! When the seeker is the only jIva there is and even
> entities such as Guru, other jIvas, jnAni's etc are admitted to be
> imaginations of the sole seeker, serving the purpose of guiding him or
> inspiring him, it is the so-called onlooker's (seeker's) viewpoint that
> becomes important. For, the jnAni's viewpoint is not so much relevant, as
> long as such a jnAni is *not* the seeker, but someone else. The jnAni's
> viewpoint may still be relevant as a guide of what to expect after the rise
> of jnana, but not so much as the experience of a jnAni other than the
> seeker.
>
> Anand
>
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