[Advaita-l] true colour of Chameleon

[GR Vishwanath]

I don't know why this is difficult,

Even a layperson like me understands that Devdutt P does ad-hoc and
unreliable  translations/re-tellings. People are calling him out on that,
and that is a good thing.

But his being gay? Are we seriously going to quote the Shastras to show he
is Adharmic- when a lot of us have already done things that are not in line
with the Shastras (like living in America)?

Call him out on his silly retellings, don't make his gayness an issue

GRV

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:52 AM Swati Gupta via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> After the 377 ruling I was wondering what our scriptures say.
>
> One of my friend mentioned this book which supposedly has references to
> LGBTQ acceptance in our scriptures.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Tritiya-Prakriti-People-Amara-Das-Wilhelm/dp/1413435343
>
>
>
> From: Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:12 PM
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> Cc: Venkatesh Murthy
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] true colour of Chameleon
>
> Namaste
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:02 PM GR Vishwanath via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > this is irrelevant. out of curiosity- do you have any links to prove "s
> > committing Adharmic act". My general impression was that the tradition
> does
> > not endorse it, nor does it quite put in stark terms.
> >
> >
> Manu Smrti says -
>
> ब्राह्मणस्य रुजः कृत्वा घ्रातिरघ्रेयमद्ययोः ।
> जैह्म्यं  च मैथुनं पुंसि जातिभ्रंशकरं स्मृतम् ॥११-६७ मनुस्मृतिः
>
> Translation: Giving pain to a Brahmin, smelling smelling at things  which
> ought
> not to be smelt at, or at spirituous liquor, cheating, and a
>
> sexual intercourse with a man, are declared to cause the loss of caste.
> अमानुषीषु पुरुष उदक्यायाम् अयोनिषु ।
> रेतः सिक्त्वा जले चैव कृच्छ्रं सांतपनं चरेत् ॥ मनु , 11-173
> Sex with artificial toys like girl dolls and animals and woman in period
> and sex not in Vagina of woman is condemned. He should perform Krcchra for
> Prayaschitta.
> अमानुषीषु = different from humans , ie horse , she buffalo etc ; अयोनिषु =
> things other than स्त्रीजननाङ्गम् woman's Yoni , ie things made of
> wood (plastic) etc ;  उदक्या = रजस्वला (उदकमर्हति , यत् ); कृच्छ्रं
> सान्तपनम् = a व्रतम् called कृच्छ्रम् ।
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:37 PM Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste
> > >
> > > Being homosexual is against Dharma. It may be fine for Laukika purposes
> > > like doing job , earning money, politics and so on. But in Dharmic
> > matters
> > > any sexual perversion is not tolerated. Any person discharging his seed
> > not
> > > in Yoni of Stree is committing Adharmic act. We should accept this and
> > move
> > > on. When such a person is writing on Dharmic matters his thoughts will
> > not
> > > be according to Dharma. His writing will also be not according to
> Dharma.
> > > Do you think Adi Sankara would have accepted homosexual disciples? No.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:27 PM K Kathirasan via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Namaste Sriram ji,
> > > >
> > > > May I know what is it that you are trying to convey with news article
> > and
> > > > the subject of this post please? And how does that relate to Advaita
> > > > Vedanta or the Vaidika tradition? I am curious. Regards.
> > > >
> > > > Kathirasan K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 20 Sep 2018, at 2:26 PM, Venkata sriram P via Advaita-l <
> > > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Namaste,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://in.yahoo.com/news/mythologist-author-devdutt-pattanaik-comes-155249747.html
> > > > >
> > > > > rgs,
> > > > > sriram
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