[Advaita-l] Power of Brahman

[Shashi]

I can understand a general statement that someone who denies the identity of jiva with Brahman cannot be a knower, regardless of the individual’s learning and power. I think it should have been left there. 

I see no reason for the specific statement regarding a Swami whose tapasya Bhakti and vidya is likely more than the vast majority of almost everyone each of us has met. 

Best,
Shashi 

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> On Sep 17, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> 
> Namaste
> 
> The Advaitis are saying Raghavendra Swamigalu never realized he is Nirguna
> Brahman like Adi Sankara. Therefore he did not know N Brahman. 'know' means
> he never realized. That is all. Like a prince brought up by hunters thinks
> he is a hunter. But one day a Apta Purusha tells him he is not a hunter but
> a prince and he may realize he is not a hunter but a prince. The 'One day'
> never came for Sri Swamigalu. Will it come in the next 300 years? Who knows?
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:52 PM Srinath Vedagarbha via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 1:51 AM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Such is the power of the knower of Brahman.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By all means respect any other saintly qualities Raghavendra Swami may
>>> have but as a Dwaitin he definitely cannot be considered a knower of
>>> Brahman.
>>> 
>>> 
>> The term 'Knower of Brahman' is an oxymoron in Advaita. As it implies two
>> things 'Knower' and 'Brahman'. Do not forget Brahman in Advaita has no
>> kartu-karma virOdha of knowing itself. "na cha agneriva AtmA Atmani
>> viShayaH: "  says Shankara.
>> 
>> 'Knower of Brahman'  concept applies only in Dvaita (irrespective of once
>> accepts Sri. Raghavendra Swamin is one or not).
>> 
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