[Advaita-l] In praise of ISKCON?!

[Belavadi Shankar]

Yes. But when people like ISKCON are concern. They are neither Hindus nor
practicing Hindus.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 11:37 AM, Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Pranams,
> Thank you for sharing info Shri Subbu ji,
> When any Swami ji of VaiShNava sampradAya is giving discourse in public,
> they generally tend to avoid controversy.
> They also know that if we keep criticizing each other, already un-united
> Hindus will suffer more and other religions (Christianity and Islam) and
> leftists/Communists will take advantage of it.
>
> In foreign land, Hindus are in minority, so they have to be united.
>
> OM
>
> Sujal
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:29 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > An Upanishadic Advaitic Etymology for ‘Nr-simha’
> > The NrsimhaTāpinyupaniṣat has given an etymology to the terms ‘Nr-simha’.
> > Shankara has brought out the purport of this etymology, which occurs as
> > part of the famous Nrsimha Mantra Rāja:
> > ॐ उग्रं वीरं महाविष्णुं ज्वलन्तं सर्वतोमुखम्।
> > नृसिंहं भीषणं भद्रं मृत्युमृत्युं नमाम्यहम् ॥
> >
> > An article that brings out all this and also several other aspects
> > important to Advaita, such as māyā-avidyā identity, is available here for
> > download:
> > http://www.mediafire.com/file/d1va1ahtczbdd19/The_etymology_
> > for_the_word_nrsimha_A
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:46 PM, V Subrahmanian <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l <
> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pranams Shri Bhaskar Prabhu ji,
> >>>
> >>> Not just ISKCONites but some Gaudiya-s too. I had discussion with him.
> He
> >>> doesn't like ISKCON's way of preaching. He said, you advaitins
> >>> out-rightly
> >>> reject Krishna's form as illusion and mithyA. I asked him have you read
> >>> Sankara Bhashya? He said no. Then I quoted some sloka-s randomly from
> >>> Gita
> >>> Bhashya. Finally, I said if veda-s are an authority for Advaitin, if
> Gita
> >>> is an essence of vedanta, then how can Krishna be Illusion. He could
> not
> >>> reply. Then I said, we accept even jivahood, but only in aJYAna (as
> said
> >>> in
> >>> chandogya upanishad Bhashya 6.5.xx or maybe 7.1.xx while explaining
> food
> >>> being divided into 3 parts - gross, medium and sutble). He then said, -
> >>> ok,
> >>> but you consider form of God as inferior. I simply replied, that is
> >>> different from 'out-rightly rejecting a form and calling it as an
> >>> illusion'. Also know that we do revere forms of God as they are
> >>> inseparable
> >>> from Brahman, however, we do not consider it as last step. Last step is
> >>> to
> >>> completely loose one's identity. Whatever exists is Brahman only. So
> >>> NirguNa, nikArAkAra Brahman is our ultimate goal. Even Yoga is
> practised
> >>> by
> >>> many advaitins, infact yoga and advaita used to go hand in hand. We see
> >>> it
> >>> in daily prANAyama practice that Brahmins do like anuloma viloma.
> Bhakti
> >>> is
> >>> the foundation of any spiritual practice. Without faith, everything is
> >>> mechanical.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> At the very beginning of the bhashya (said to be of Shankara) for the
> >> Nrsimha Tapini Upanishad, it is said: saakaara brahman is taken up as
> the
> >> upaaya for realizing the niraakaara brahman.
> >>
> >> Thus, the formed-deity is a support for the aspirant to reach the
> >> formless Truth.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> subbu
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
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