[Advaita-l] The 'Snake-and-ladder' game - The Spiritual path

[Dev Babu]

SamsayAtmA Vinashyati !!!

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:22 PM D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

>  >he OP has only mentioned that British might have changed the name of the
> this game in order to subvert our rich culture and heritage (which is par
> for the course for our missionary friends.)
>
> What made me comment is the  statement below.
>
> >>  The British (intentionally to break our rich culture & education
> system) later named it Snakes and Ladders instead of the original Moksha
> Patam.
>
> I do not see any misconstruction on my part,
>
> I do not understand how the adoption of Mokshapata as snakes and ladders
> (If it was actually done) breaks our rich culture.
>
> I only said that this tendency to ascribe motives to the westerners in
> every case cannot be true.
>
> All of us should  try to liberate ourselves from our  bias, prejudices,
> pet-beliefs. We should also doubt the various traditions which muddle our
> thinking.
> Advaita teaches us to doubt the very reality of the external world . After
> all various traditions are products of the external world. Doubting the
> external world but preserving its traditions does not make sense.
>
> regards,
> Sarma.
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Murali k <methusala8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @ D.V.N Sharma,
> >
> > The OP has only mentioned that British might have changed the name of the
> > this game in order to subvert our rich culture and heritage (which is par
> > for the course for our missionary friends.) Neither has  he called the
> > westerners dumb  or has  he mentioned Indians are the 'only intelligent
> > people around'.
> >
> > Maybe, it would helpful if you stop deriving unintended meanings from
> this
> > post and start  ' doubting' your own conclusions. This will liberate you
> > from misconstruing the views of others.
> >
> > Best,
> > Murali
> >
> > On 27 July 2018 at 06:50, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This is prevalent in Andhra as Paramapadasopanapathamu with Vaishnava
> >> terminology and influence.. Once you reach the top most row you are safe
> >> because there is no more fear of punarjanma..
> >> Only you have to make a number of oscillations across the top row till
> >> your
> >> score leads you exactly to the Lord's square. Suppose the westerners
> >> adapted it as snakes and ladders what is wrong. Why do we bait
> westerners
> >> day in and day out.  The idea westerners are dumb and we are the only
> >> intelligent people in the world is unrealistic premises. See what they
> are
> >> doing in science and technology now. Even in the earlier cennturies our
> >> people learned a lot astronomy from them. You will find the mention of
> >> Yavanacharyas and Romakas in our astrological texts.
> >>
> >> I played the above game in my childhood a number of times. Even now, may
> >> be, it is played in rural areas.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Sarma.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:51 AM, Dev Babu via Advaita-l <
> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > That is Amazing!
> >> > Many Thanks for sharing this.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:17 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> >> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Copied and pasted from FB page of Ajay Khemka
> >> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ajay.khemka.75?fref=mentions>
> >> > >
> >> > > Unbelievable!!!
> >> > > The 13th century poet saint Gyandev created a children's game called
> >> > Moksha
> >> > > Patam. The British (intentionally to break our rich culture &
> >> education
> >> > > system) later named it Snakes and Ladders instead of the original
> >> Moksha
> >> > > Patam.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > In the original one hundred square game board, the 12th square was
> >> faith,
> >> > > the 51st square was reliability, the 57th square was generosity, the
> >> 76th
> >> > > square was knowledge, and the 78th square was asceticism. These were
> >> the
> >> > > squares where the ladders were found and one could move ahead
> faster.
> >> The
> >> > > 41st square was for disobedience, the 44th square for arrogance, the
> >> 49th
> >> > > square for vulgarity, the 52nd square for theft, the 58th square for
> >> > lying,
> >> > > the 62nd square for drunkenness, the 69th square for debt, the 84th
> >> > square
> >> > > for anger, the 92nd square for greed, the 95th square for pride, the
> >> 73rd
> >> > > square for murder and the 99th square for lust. These were the
> squares
> >> > > where the snake waited with its mouth open. The 100th square
> >> represented
> >> > > Nirvana or Moksha.The tops of each ladder depict a God, or one of
> the
> >> > > various heavens (kailasa, vaikuntha, brahmaloka) and so on. As the
> >> game
> >> > > progressed various actions were supposed to take you up and down the
> >> > board
> >> > > as in life... Amazing, isn't it???!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > https://www.facebook.com/subrahmanian.vaidyanathan/
> >> > posts/2215995825080433
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