[Advaita-l] Ghata Bhashya 1 - MUST SEE- superb videos on Sankara Bhashya
Venkatesh Murthy
vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 6 01:12:48 EST 2018
Namaste
We cannot help anybody not understanding his own Guru. If you agree Pot is
depending on Clay for its reality but Clay not depending on Pot for its
reality it is exactly same as Pot is not real. Because in our system
Advaita there are not two realities dependent and Independent like Dvaitis.
We say there is only one Independent reality. IF something is depending on
it that something is False. It cannot be real. Therefore Pot is False and
Clay is real. The Upanishad statement is also saying same thing.
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:34 AM, KAMESWARARAO MULA via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Dear Sir, I have started learning vedanta through some
> online classed as suggested by some of the senior members of the forum, The
> same 'Ghata Bhasya' was taught to me one of the followers of Pujaya sri
> Swami Dayananda Saraswati which was in very simple terms & even the
> beginners can understand very easily as it is as simple as opening of the
> banana cover & eating the fruit. i.e "MITHYA'' The reality of a pot made
> out of clay:A pot of clay is clay in the form of apot. we can use it to
> carry water, to store food or it can function as adecoration. A pot of clay
> is a very simple object and is made of out of asingle substance: clay. The
> existence of the pot is completely depending uponthe clay. Therefore, clay
> has a higher degree of ‘realness’ than the pot. In this example clay is
> satyambecause the existence of the pot is dependentupon clay, so the pot
> cannot be satyamas it has no independent existence. Theexistence of the pot
> is ‘received’ fromthe clay, because there would be no potwithout the clay.
> The pot has an odd modeof existence: It definitely exists,but has no
> existence on its own, since itsexistence is depending on clay. It isnot
> unreal, asat,but also not independently real, satyam.This peculiar state
> ismithya,dependent existence.The pot adds nothing substantial to theclay:
> The weight of the pot is theweight of the clay. If you break the potinto
> pieces the clay is still there. Theamount of clay has not been
> diminished,only the shape of the clay has changed.A pot is only name and
> form, nama-rupa,of clay. Clay can take many forms,not only pot form. It can
> be moulded intocups, plates, vases and many more.Itis independent of
> nama-rupa. Thisdependency relationship between pot and clay is not
> reflected in theEnglishlanguage. We say “a pot of clay”, which implies the
> pot comes first andclayis an attribute. It seems that potform is satyam
> andclay is mithya. Butitis the opposite: Clay comes first and pot form is
> an attribute of clay. Fromthe vantage point of the clay, nothing
> substantial has been added when it hasbeenshaped into the form of a pot and
> vice versa, nothing gets lost when thepotgets broken. When we look at the
> pot, we also see clay. We take the pot tobeseparate from clay, but by
> understanding the nature of the pot, we see thereisno separation. Though
> pot is non separate from clay, there is no reciprocalidentityrelationship
> between them. The pot isnothing but clay, but clay is notonly the pot.If
> both were reciprocal to each other, both would be satyam, whichis not the
> case.
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> Sri Guru Padaravindarpana MastuKameswara
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> Ghata Bhashya by Guruji -
> https://youtu.be/pr9cnQIUlwQ
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> -Venkatesh
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