[Advaita-l] How can the reality of brahman be proven?
Kalyan
kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 6 06:07:26 EDT 2018
If I can sum up your argument, it goes like this -
I define brahman as existence. Therefore brahman must exist.
The absurdity of the argument speaks for itself.
//There cannot be non-existence
of Existence. This is a fact that cannot be disproved by
anyone, any logic.//
No amount of logic can disprove the reality of the world or the reality of ghosts either, but we are going in a tangential direction here.
The hypothesis to be proven is - brahman is real. I am not claiming that I can disprove brahman, just as I cannot disprove the reality of the world or the reality of ghosts. I am asking - How can you prove the reality of brahman? (Similarly, I can ask a related question - How can you disprove the reality of the world?)
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On Fri, 4/6/18, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] How can the reality of brahman be proven?
To: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Friday, April 6, 2018, 3:09 AM
On Thu,
Apr 5, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Kalyan via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
Advaitins
often claim that the reality of the world cannot be proven.
Fair enough.
I want to ask - how can the reality of brahman be proven?
Is it just a matter of faith in Sruti/smriti? (If yes, then
the reality of brahman is also a matter of faith. It is not
proven. If no, please explain how the reality of brahman is
proven.)
Sat, Existence, is another name for
Brahman. Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma - Taittiirya
Upanishad. The BG 2.16 says: There cannot be non-existence
of Existence. This is a fact that cannot be disproved by
anyone, any logic. No need to rely on Shruti or Smriti for
this. That which is Existence is Real. Sat eva Satyam, Sat
alone is Satyam - says the Shruti too. It is only because
people do not pay attention to this fundamental Existence,
being carried away by the fleeting existence of
objects/events/people, the Shruti has to draw one's
attention to this fact of the non-destructibllity of Sat.
There is no form or name for this Existence but it can never
be denied by anyone by any amount of logic. Shankara asked
the Shunyavadin: how can you negate the existence of the
negator-of-everything? There is no power or logic that can
negate the negator, making him the fundamental un-negatable
reality. That is called Brahman.
vs
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