[Advaita-l] Authenticity of 'Srimad Bhagwatam' - Extensive article

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Another point is Advaitis agree a Mithyaa Vastu can have Sadhakatva like a
dream object can have real effect. Therefore even if Bhagavatam is bogus it
has Sadhakatva of preaching Advaita Philosophy, Bhakti and so on. It is
good only.

Another point is we should reject some teachings in Puranas and take only
the good part. In Padma Purana we have some bad Sloka on Advaita and Adi
Sankara as Maayaa Vaadam Asacchaastram Pracchannam Bauddham and so on. Do
we take that? No. But in same Padma Purana we can see Siva Geeta. Do we
take that? Yes. Similarly we should take the good and reject the bad in
Bhagavatam.

2018-04-01 11:27 GMT+05:30 V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>:

> Just like there are opinions about the authenticity of the
> Srimadbhagavatam, there are voices raised against the authenticity of the
> Devi Bhagavatam, several Upanishads, those portions in the Mahabharatha,
> Padma Purana, Shiva, Linga Purana, etc. This set consists of those
> 'vaishnavas' who could not tolerate the views of Veda Vyasa. Evidently
> these texts have come under the scanner of these Vishnu bhaktas as these
> alleged texts proclaim Shiva or Devi to be the Supreme Brahman and Vishnu
> to be one of the subordinate deities.  Hence alone the opposition to the
> Sri lalita Sahasra Nama, Soundarya Lahari, Shivananda Lahari, etc.
>
> The bigotry got to such ugly levels that a Srivaishnava scholar has even
> 'sanitized' the compositions of Sri Thyagaraja Swami to rid it of the weeds
> of Shiva-paratva!!
>
> The Vedantin alone has no problems with all these type of texts for his is
> Brahmavada and not any 'ism' based theology.
>
> Shankara's endorsement of the Bhagavata practices in the Brahma Sutra
> Bhashya is only an upalakshana for any devotional practice coming under the
> heading of 'Ishvara Pranidhaanam' of the Patanjali system. Hence alone
> Shankara has explicitly talked about the worship of a Jnani by archana,
> pada prakshaalana, pradakshina etc. in the Upanishad/Sutra bhashyams. So
> any deity that is worshiped by these means is acceptable to Shankara.
>
> regards
> subrahmanian.v
>
> 2018-04-01 10:16 GMT+05:30 Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>:
>
>> Namaste
>>
>> Adi Sankara has practically agreed with Bhagavata followers in
>> Sutra Bhashya 2-2-42 on Supremacy of Narayana. He has said -
>>
>> तत्र भागवता मन्यते — भगवानेवैको वासुदेवो निरञ्जनज्ञानस्वरूपः
>> परमार्थतत्त्वम् ; स चतुर्धात्मानं प्रविभज्य प्रतिष्ठितः —
>> वासुदेवव्यूहरूपेण, सङ्कर्षणव्यूहरूपेण, प्रद्युम्नव्यूहरूपेण,
>> अनिरुद्धव्यूहरूपेण च ; वासुदेवो नाम परमात्मा उच्यते ; सङ्कर्षणो नाम
>> जीवः ; प्रद्युम्नो नाम मनः ; अनिरुद्धो नाम अहंकारः ; तेषां वासुदेवः
>> परा प्रकृतिः, इतरे सङ्कर्षणादयः कार्यम् ; तमित्थंभूतं परमेश्वरं
>> भगवन्तमभिगमनोपादानेज्यास्वाध्याययोगैर्वर्षशतमिष्ट्वा क्षीणक्लेशो
>> भगवन्तमेव प्रतिपद्यत इति । तत्र यत्तावदुच्यते — योऽसौ नारायणः
>> परोऽव्यक्तात्प्रसिद्धः परमात्मा सर्वात्मा, स आत्मनात्मानमनेकधा
>> व्यूह्यावस्थित इति — तन्न निराक्रियते, ‘ स एकधा भवति त्रिधा भवति’ (छा.
>> उ. ७ । २६ । २) इत्यादिश्रुतिभ्यः परमात्मनोऽनेकधाभावस्याधिगतत्वात् ;
>> यदपि तस्य भगवतोऽभिगमनादिलक्षणमाराधनमजस्रमनन्यचित्ततयाभिप्रेयते, तदपि न
>> प्रतिषिध्यते, श्रुतिस्मृत्योरीश्वरप्रणिधानस्य प्रसिद्धत्वात् ।
>>
>> This means there were Bhagavata followers at the time of Adi Sankara
>> itself. They must have had some text like Bhagavatam to follow also. How
>> can anybody say there was no Bhagavatam before Ramanuja? It is not
>> correct.
>>
>> In South India all Tri Matasthas from Advaita, Visistadvaita and Dvaita
>> have accepted Bhagavatam. In Bhagavatam we can find fine Advaita
>> Philosophy.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Aditya Kumar via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Namaste,
>> > http://www.mahapashupatastra.com/2011/12/bhagavatam-of-
>> > krishna-is-bogus-devi-bhagavatam-is-authentic.html
>> >
>> > Dare I say, this settles it ? :D
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>> -Venkatesh
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