[Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata

[Kalyan]

Dear Sri Aathreya

Please see my previous posts in this thread. I have opposed the jIvatva of Rama and Krishna and defended their Ishwaratva. Hope that clarifies my position.

Regards
Kalyan

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On Tue, 5/23/17, Ganu <aathreya18 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
 Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 3:28 PM
 
 This is
 pointless, you guys discussing on Jivatva of Rama or Krishna
 or not even a percent of how they engaged themselves in
 Brahmavaada. One must remember what Sri Krishna says in BG
 that he is the Lord of all beings and descends in the form
 he wills. This is an absolute heresy to Shankara vaada as
 well. Whoever however big have purported the idea of Rama or
 Krishna as Jivas are wrong and  take a view which is shruti
 baahira. 
 Thank you,
 
 Aathreya 
 On 23-May-2017 10:52
 PM, "Kalyan via Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 Vidyasankar, I have had enough of
 your pointless posts. I am not going to reply to your
 further posts, unless you specifically address the question
 of the Atman's avidya.
 
 
 
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 On Tue, 5/23/17, Kalyan <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s
 - Mahabharata
 
  To: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>,
 "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
 
  Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>, "Sriram Sankaranarayanan"
 <ssriram1992 at icloud.com>
 
  Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 3:04 PM
 
 
 
  Vidyasankar, I see that you have no answer to
 
  the question of the Atman's avidya and you are harping
 on
 
  insignificant issues. If you want to remove me from the
 
  forum, feel free to do so. I have no time to write
 lengthy
 
  posts. I have nothing else to add.
 
 
 
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  On Tue, 5/23/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan
 
  <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and
 
  Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
 
   To: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 
   Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita
 
  Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>,
 
  "Sriram Sankaranarayanan" <ssriram1992 at icloud.com>
 
   Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 2:27 PM
 
 
 
   On Tue, May 23, 2017 at
 
   10:38 AM, Kalyan <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 
   wrote:
 
   Vidyasankar
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Yes, I was a previous member of the
 
  list. You can find some
 
   of my posts in the archives. You can
 
  see here for example
 
   -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://lists.advaita-vedanta.
 
   org/archives/advaita-l/2012-
 
   February/
 
 
 
   I see a
 
   new member introduction from a Kalyan
 
  in Sep 2011, followed
 
   by some activity from a gmail account
 
  with a different
 
   username (kalyankc.81) between Oct
 
  2011 and Feb 2012. After
 
   that burst of activity, you seem to
 
  have dropped off the
 
   Advaita-L map from March 2012 onward,
 
  till now,
 
   resubscribing to the list with a
 
  different email ID. At
 
   least, I can't find anything from a
 
  Kalyan in the
 
   archives over the intervening five
 
  years.
 
   There's nothing saying that you
 
   shouldn't do this, although I don't
 
  quite recommend
 
   it. At the least, when you unsubscribe
 
  and resubscribe, you
 
   could be more transparent with the
 
  moderators in the new
 
   introduction note that you send
 
  us.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Having said that, I dont believe I
 
  have to prove anything to
 
   you. You dont need to boss around just
 
  because you are a
 
   moderator.
 
 
 
   Ah, there is that attitude again.
 
   One of the jobs of a moderator is to
 
  keep the peace among
 
   list members. At this point, you
 
  certainly need to prove to
 
   us that you can participate in
 
  discussions with other
 
   members of this list in a civil manner
 
  and that you can
 
   express your disagreement with their
 
  views in a measured
 
   manner, instead of getting hot under
 
  the collar at the
 
   slightest instance. In your responses
 
  to various list
 
   members in March and April of 2017,
 
  your content and tone
 
   seemed designed to make the moderators
 
  of this list pay
 
   special attention to you. If you think
 
  that is me bossing
 
   you around, you certainly need to
 
  rethink your expectations
 
   of what is involved in the moderation
 
  of a discussion forum
 
   online. You can check with the 500
 
  others on this list, how
 
   much we moderators actually boss them
 
   around. 
 
   Seriously,
 
   what exactly are you trying to prove
 
  with this belligerence
 
   of yours? What do you hope to achieve
 
  by rejoining after a
 
   hiatus of five years (assuming you
 
  were not on the list in
 
   the meantime anyway, under a different
 
  avatar) and
 
   immediately picking fights with list
 
  members and
 
   moderators? 
 
   Vidyasankar         
 
        
 
     
 
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