[Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan

[Vidyasankar Sundaresan]

If you knew that, Kalyan, you should agree that this comes much later,
 rather than sooner. And if you think this list forms a coterie that
excludes you, the decision about what comes next is yours.

Best regards,
Vidyasankar

On May 21, 2017 10:07 AM, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com> wrote:

Vidyasankar

I knew you would warn me sooner or later. This list is meant for a coterie
of a few. A mutual admiration society, I should say. If somebody does not
fall in line, he or she is out.

Now do whatever you want to do as the moderator.

Regards
Kalyan

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On Sun, 5/21/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful
and soothing Narayana Bhajan
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org>, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 10:34 AM

 Kalyan, I have a two part
 answer for you. The first is as an individual responding to
 you. The second is as a moderator of this list.
 If you know yourself as nirguNa, nirviSesha, then
 you are no longer an ignoramus. If you know yourself as any
 other, then you are the biggest ignoramus. Yet, whatever
 little you know in your ignorance is only through the light
 of your own self. Therefore, this nirguNa nirviSesha self is
 described as the paraMjyoti.
 That said, watch your language and your combative
 attitude. This list does not exist to fatten anybody's
 ego. Over the course of several posts, it appears that your
 motive is to showcase how well you can get under the skins
 of other list members. In that case, take it elsewhere. It
 contradicts your professed claims of wanting to have
 productive discussions. You are trying the patience of
 almost everybody here. The moderators have mostly taken a
 benign attitude towards your posting history, but this is
 something up with which we don't have to put
 forever.
 Vidyasankar
 On May 21, 2017 1:33
 AM, "Kalyan via Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 Isn't
 the nirguNa nirvishesha Atman itself the biggest and only
 ignoramus in advaita? It beats me how such an Atman,
 wallowing in ignorance, can be described as param jyoti.



 Regards

 Kalyan





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 On Sun, 5/21/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:



  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA
 only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan

  To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>

  Cc: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>

  Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 2:10 AM



  On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM,

  Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <

  advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>

  wrote:



  > Namaste

  >

  > I listen to this

  popular Narayana Bhajan without fail everyday like

  > many many people -

  >

  > https://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=BnLfUf1Iefc

  >

  > In the Narayana Sukta

  Narayana is the Ultimate Ishwara. Who is He? The

  > Upanisad has said -

  >

  > sa brahma sa śivaḥ

  sa hariḥ sendraḥ so'kṣaraḥ paramaḥ

  svarāṭ.

  >

  > He is

  Brahma, Siva, Vishnu, Indra and other gods. He is the

  > Imperishable, the Absolute, the Autonomous

  Being.

  >



  Sayana in the bhashya to this sukta says - it

  is not any mūrtiviṣeśa, that

  is not any

  particular form, meaning that it is Nirguna Brahman. He

  gives

  the shruti 'param

  jyotirupasampadya..' which is discussed in the brahma

  sutra bhashya as the self that is realized upon

  right knowledge. This is

  nirguna Brahman in

  Advaita.  Sayana also says that this entity is the

  adhishthana for the aropita jagat. That is

  again nirguna brahman.



  regards

  vs



  >

  > --

  > Regards

  >

  > -Venkatesh

  >

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