[Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata

[Kalyan]

Appayya Dikshitha probably has not studied the entire Mahabharata. In Shanti parvan, when Vishnu shows his Vishwaroopa to Narada, Vishnu says that he will be born as Dasaratha's son Rama.

sandhau tu samanuprApte tretAyAM dvAparasya cha |
rAmo dAsharathirbhUtvA bhaviShyAmi jagatpatiH || Mbh 12.326.78

Thus, the Mahabharata itself establishes Rama as Ishwara. Moreover Valmiki Ramayana also considers Rama as Ishwara. One must not study a text in bits and pieces. 

Regards
Kalyan

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On Sat, 5/20/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Cc: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017, 3:26 AM
 
 A post on the above topic is available here
 for reading:
 
 https://adbhutam.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/rama-and-krishna-are-jiva-s-mahabharata/
 
 
 regards
 subrahmanian.v
 
 
 In the short work 'Bhārata sāraga
 sangraha stotram', Sri Appayya Dikshita
 concludes by pointing out that Rama and
 Krishna were jiva-s, endowed with
 karma, delusion, etc. on the authority
 of the Mahabharata:
 
 गोप्तारं ततो
 गच्छेत्
 सरव्यास्तीर्थमुत्तमम्
 ।
 तत्र रामो गतः
 स्वर्गं
 सभृत्यबलवाहनः ॥
 देहं
 त्यक्त्वा दिवं यातः
 स्थास्यतीन्द्रस्य
 वैभवात् ।’
 
 [Rama went to svarga along with his
 retinue, after giving up the body, and
 remains there with Indra's lordship.]
 
 इति
 गोप्रतारतीर्थमहिम्ना
 श्रीरामस्य
 स्वर्गप्रतिष्ठावचनात्;
 सभापर्वणि
 यमसभावर्णने -
 
 Having thus proclaimed the greatness of
 Go-pratāra, Sri Rama's settlement
 in Svarga, the sabhā parvan of the
 Mahabharata while describing the
 Assembly Hall of Yama further says:
 
 तस्यां
 राजर्षयः पुण्यास्तथा
 देवर्षयोऽमराः ।
 यमं वैवस्वतं
 तात प्रहृष्टाः
 पर्युपासते ॥
 ययातिर्नहुषः
 पूरुर्मान्धाता सोमको
 नृगः ।
 
  
 इत्यारभ्य 
 स्वर्गप्राप्त्यनन्तरं
 यमसभायामास्थाय
 तमुपासीनानां
 राजर्षीणां
 परिगणनेन,
 ’रामो दाशरथिश्चैव
 लक्षमणश्च प्रतर्दनः’
 इति परिगणनेन च सोऽपि
 कर्माधीनलोकप्राप्तिको
 जीवविशेषः स्यात् ।
 
 In the Assembly Hall of Yama are
 present: Rajarshi-s with puṇya,
 devarshi-s, deva-s, who happily
 meditate upon Yama. Also are Yayati,
 Nahusha, Puru, Māndhāta, Somaka,
 Nṛga. Having enumerated those present in
 the Assembly and meditating Yama, the
 Mahabharata includes: Rāma the son of
 Dasharatha, Lakshmana and Pratardana.
 By so counting Rama along with all
 other entities, it can be concluded
 that Rama is a jiva who has attained a
 loka that is subject to and attainable
 by karma.
 
 Read the full post in the URL provided
 above.
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