[Advaita-l] Did the Jains come later than Shankara?

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

There are many Jaina influences on Madhvacharya theory of Atma. He did not
believe Atma is All pervading like the Vedanta says.


On Fri, 12 May 2017 at 4:08 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste
>
> It may be Sri B Govindacharya's tactics to confuse people because some
> critics have said Madhvacharya borrowed ideas from Jainism. He may be
> trying to confuse the critics
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2017 at 1:03 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12 May 2017 12:06, "Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l" <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 May 2017, कुवँर बिपिन चौहान via Advaita-l wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
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>> In the archives of this list you can find a post be me analyzing the
>> description of the "Buddha" avatar in Vishnu Purana and showing it could
>> apply equally to Jains as well Buddhists.
>>
>> There are 24 prophets of the Jains called Tirthankars of whom Mahavir is
>> the last in this yuga-cycle.  Another earlier one is Rshabhadev who is
>> mentioned in the Bhagavata and other puranas as an avatara of Vishnu
>> Bhagavan.
>>
>> I'm sure Shri Govindacharya knows this.  It does not seem likely a vidvan
>> of his calibre  would make such an elementary mistake.  I wonder if as the
>> "Jain view" he is refering to the great Hemachandra who holds a position
>> similar to Shankaracharya for Jains atleast Shvetambar ones.  He is
>> post-shankara in chronology as far as I can recall.
>>
>>
>> But the concept of the middling sized ( body-sized) Atman that the scholar
>> is talking of as jaina (aarhata) view was already there before Shankara
>> and
>> refuted by him in the Brahmasutra bhashya:
>>
>> ब्रह्मसूत्रभाष्यम्द्वितीयोऽध्यायःद्वितीयः पादः सूत्रम् ३४ - भाष्यम्
>>
>> ………जीवस्य अकार्त्स्न्यमपरो दोषः प्रसज्येत । कथम् ? शरीरपरिमाणो हि जीव
>> इत्या
>> र्हता मन्यन्ते ; शरीरपरिमाणतायां च सत्याम् , अकृत्स्नोऽसर्वगतः परिच्छिन्न
>> आत्मेत्यतो………
>>
>> अग्रे पठन्तु...
>> <
>> http://advaitasharada.sringeri.net/display/bhashya/BS?page=2&id=BS_C02_S02_V34_B1&hlBhashya=%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A4
>> >
>> ब्रह्मसूत्रभाष्यम्द्वितीयोऽध्यायःद्वितीयः पादः सूत्रम् ३६ - भाष्यम्
>>
>> ………स्यात् ; ततश्चाविशेषेण सर्वदैव अणुर्महान्वा जीवोऽभ्युपगन्तव्यः, न
>> शरीरपरिमाणः । अतश्च सौगतवदार्हतमपि मतमसङ्गतमित्युपेक्षितव्यम् ॥ ३६ ॥………
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Subrahmanian. V
>>
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