[Advaita-l] Debunking Drishti-Srishti Vada and Eka Jiva Vada - part 1

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

You are not correct. In Naiskarmyasiddhi Sureshwara has used
always 'Tattvamasyaadi" only when talking of Upadesha and Brahma Jnana. Tat
Tvam Asi is the Foremost Upadesha Vaakya exactly like 'You are the Tenth'.
Other Mahaa Vaakyas may be used also. But it will not mean Tat Tvam Asi
cannot or should not be used. Therefore for DSV Upadesha also Tat Tvam Asi
is very suitable.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Clearly, Swami Vidyaranya does not consider   << तत्वमसि (tatvamasi)
>> >> as
>> > the appropriate mahAvAkya for his version of DSP.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >This is not correct. Because Tat Tvam Asi is always Upadesha >Maha Vakya
>> >from Guru to Sishya. It cannot be some other Vakya. It must be >Tat Tvam
>> Asi
>> >only in SDV and DSV and for all Sishyas it is Tat Tvam Asi. >From one
>> Sloka
>> >you cannot conclude any thing.
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>>
>> Namaste.
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>> Not so.
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>> ओंकार (oMkAra) is one which is widely used for upadEsha. It does not
>> make use of tatvamasi. The mahAvAkya in this regard अयमात्मा ब्रह्म
>> (ayamAtmA brahma) taken together with the preceding words in the mantra
>> सर्वं ह्येतद्ब्रह्म (sarvaM hyetadbrahma) translates to सर्वं ह्येतद्
>> आत्मा (sarvaM hyetad AtmA) which is the same as the Br. Up. Mantra cited
>> by me. I could have as well cited this also.
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>> In Tai. Up. Varuna’s teaching to Bhrugu does not involve tatvamasi.
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>> In Kenopanishad, the teaching does not involve tatvamasi though the Guru
>> claims that the teaching follows parampara
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>> << अन्यदेव तद्विदितादथो अविदितादधि ।
>> इति शुश्रुम पूर्वेषां ये नस्तद्व्याचचक्षिरे ॥ ४ ॥ >>
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>> << anyadeva tadviditAdatho aviditAdadhi |
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>> iti shushruma pUrveShAM ye nastadvyAchachakShire || 4 || >>.
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>> Many more can be cited.
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>> Regards
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-- 
Regards

-Venkatesh