[Advaita-l] Debunking Drishti-Srishti Vada and Eka Jiva Vada - part 1

[Venkatraghavan S]

hit send before I finished my last sentence - Thus, to postulate that the
svapna jagat sriShTi kartritvam that exists in the dream is an absolute
necessity as a stepping stone to moksha is not necessary.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Praveenji
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Apologies for answering a question asked to Subbuji...
>>
> Not at all, glad to hear your input.
>
>
>>
>> > Could the order not be: 1) I see creation. 2) What I see is an
>> appearance
>> > 3) Therefore there is no creation 4) I am all there is.
>> >
>>
>> 1 is SDV.
>> ​2+3 = DSV.
>> 4 is moksha.
>>
>> This is appropriating the concept of mithyAtva itself to drishTi srishTi
> vAda - I don't think there is any basis to do that. The reason for this is
> in the text below that you quoted.
>
> > Once I conclude that what is seen is an appearance, why is it
> > necessary to attribute an causal agent for that appearance? If no causal
> > agency is needed, there is no necessity for drishTa srishTi to follow
> > srishTa drishTi before moksha.
> >
>
> You also mentioned elsewhere that the dream drishTAnta is exclusively
> applicable to drishTi srishTi prakriyA. I am not convinced that it is
> exclusively so. It is not necessary that every aspect of the drishTAnta
> will match every aspect of the dArshTAnta. All the person using this
> anumAna relies on is that the hetu that exists in svapna exists in the
> dArshTAnta too, in order to establish that the sAdhya (mithyAtva) that
> exists in svapna exists in the dArshTAnta also. Thus, to postulate that the
> svapna jagat sriShTi kartritvam that exists in the dream is an absolute
> necessity as a stepping stone to moksha.
>
> Kind regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>