[Advaita-l] Debunking Drishti-Srishti Vada and Eka Jiva Vada - part 1

[H S Chandramouli]

Missedout to add.  DSP/EJP for the jnAni is not an upAsana.

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:40 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Praveen Ji,
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>>
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>> At the outset, I want to clarify that what  I am setting out here is just
>> my understanding. When I differ, it is not that your views are wrong, but
>> only that my understanding is different. You may  consider it  an alternate
>> view or even a wrong view also.
>>
>>
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>> Reg  << any tarka that lets one remain with ​the aikyajnAna as shown by
>> Shruti is valid >>,
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>> But the whole problem is to “remain with ​the aikyajnAna as shown by
>> Shruti “. How to achieve it is the question.
>>
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>> Reg  << ​This question is resolved by Shruti-based tarka as "svapnavat
>> kalpitatvAt"​. To *the* DSV-follower (since there is only one in EJV), this
>> tarka clicks the first time he understands it and all duality is
>> cognitively resolved; no other tarka is needed. >>,
>>
>>
>>
>> It is very well within our knowledge that any understanding based on
>> tarka lasts only till another tarka  which is more powerful is met with. It
>> is not that any other tarka is not needed after the first understanding,
>> the alternate tarka  just comesup. Then there is samshaya as to which one
>> is correct. That leads to further tarka, all of which lands the sAdhaka
>> back into SDP only. The understanding will be lasting only on
>> स्वानुभवमात्र् (svAnubhavamAtr) ( intuitive experience alone). The JMV
>> of Swami Vidyaranya considers two types of sAdhakAs who have reached the
>> stage of first understanding through श्रवण (shravaNa) namely योगि
>> (yogi)  and परमहम्ससन्यासि (paramahamsasanyAsi). Considering their
>> competence in different types of sAdhanAs, the परमहम्ससन्यासि
>> (paramahamsasanyAsi) continues the sAdhana in the vichAra mArga to achieve
>> स्वानुभव (svAnubhava), while the योगि (yogi) continues in the upAsana
>> mArga. It is at this stage that DSP is ideally suited for the योगि
>> (yogi). He is extremely
>> ​
>> suitable f
>> ​
>> or upAsanAs. The DSP is practically the same or approximates to
>> निर्गुणब्रह्म उपासन (nirguNabrahma upAsana).
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>> Thus two alternate approaches are recognized at this stage, vichAra and
>> upAsana.
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>> We can now consider the status of a ज्ञानि (j~nAni). I am just copying a
>> verse from Swami Vidyaranya in his commentary on  कौषीतकि उप(kauShItaki
>> upa.) in his अनुभूतिप्रकाश (anubhUtiprakAsha). Verse 67, Chapter 8,
>> book page 763 (book referred to in my earlier post).
>>
>>
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>> << दृष्टिसृष्टिमिमां  ब्रम्हानुभवी  बहु  मन्यते। स्वप्रबोधात्  स्वसंसारो
>> लीयते  स्वप्नवद् यतः । >>
>>
>>
>>
>> << dRRiShTisRRiShTimimAM  bramhAnubhavI  bahu  manyate| svaprabodhAt
>> svasaMsAro  lIyate  svapnavad yataH |
>>
>>  >>.
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>>  Not a good translation, please bear with me. Better still, correct it
>>
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>> <<The one who has already experienced Brahman gives great importance to
>> this Drishti-Srishti Prakriya because just like the dream ends when one
>> wakes up from the dream, so also our samsAra (jagat)  sublates on
>>  Enlightenment >>
>>
>>
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>> To achieve the stage of जीवन्मुक्त (jIvanmukta) which is the ultimate in
>> advaita sidhAnta, sAdhana is continued by the ज्ञानि (j~nAni) through
>>  vidvatsanyAsa for which  DSP/EJP is the most appropriate and only prakriyA
>> prescribed. That is how EJP is stated to be THE ultimate prakriyA in
>> advaita sidhAnta. It leads to जीवन्मुक्ति (jIvanmukti), the highest
>> stage in advaita sidhanta and which cannot be attained through any other
>> means.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
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