[Advaita-l] 'somaH pavate....' Rg.Veda 9.5

[D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ]

soma denotes the soma plant, Siva, Moon etc.
Are you sure that the Rigvedic passage does not refer to soma plant?

regards,
Sarma.

2017-07-06 8:02 GMT+05:30 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
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> 2017-07-05 23:27 GMT+05:30 kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
> >:
>
> > PraNAms to all
> >
> > I do not understand this over emphasis in terms of Shiva or Vishnu etc in
> > this Advaita lists. I find so many posts on this aspect while we all
> > understand personification of Iswara in a form is meant for worship.
> >
>
> Dear Sada ji,
>
> I understand and appreciate the sentiment behind your post. I am copying
> below what is stated in the Advaita l information page:
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> Hence apart from core Advaita, other topics too are discussed in this
> forum. Shankara's philosophy does not differentiate between Hari and Hara
> and hence in order to clarify the position of Advaita with regard to
> various Shruti and Smriti, etc. passages, posts of this nature are also
> finding space here.
>
> As you have correctly observed, Shankara does say in the Brahma sutra
> bhashya that Brahman takes on a Maayic form to bless the aspirant.
>
> warm regards
> subbu
>
> warm regards
>
> >
> > Hari Om1
> > Sadananda
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2017 1:43 PM
> > *Subject:* [Advaita-l] 'somaH pavate....' Rg.Veda 9.5
> >
> > The Rg vedic mantra: सोमः पवते जनिता मतीनां जनिता दिवो जनिता पृथिव्या:।
> > जनिताग्नेर्जनिता सूर्यस्य जनितेन्द्रस्य जनितोत विष्णोः 9.5  which depicts
> > Shiva as the progenitor of agni, surya, indra, vishnu, etc. is slightly
> > elaborated in the BhasmajAbAlopanishad:
> > :
> >
> > http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/bhasma.html?lang=sa
> >
> > स एव ब्रह्मोपदेशः । ब्रह्म सोमोऽहं पवनः सोमोऽहं पवते सोमोऽहं जनिता
> > मतीनां सोमोऽहं जनिता पृथिव्याः सोमोऽहं जनिताऽग्नेः सोमोऽहं जनिता
> > सूर्यस्य सोमोऽहं
> > जनितेन्द्रस्य सोमोऽहं जनितोत विष्णोः सोमोऽहमेव जनिता स यश्चन्द्रमसो
> > देवानां भूर्भुवस्वरादीनां सर्वेषां लोकानां च ।
> >
> > The above is the declaration of Parabrahman Shiva as the cause of
> > everything in creation including the devas
> >
> > such as vishnu. The Upanishad further says:
> >
> > विश्वं भूतं भुवनं चित्रं बहुधा जातं जायमानं च यत्सर्वस्य सोमोऽहमेव
> > जनिता विश्वाधिको रुद्रो महर्षिः । हिरण्यगर्भादीनहं
> > जायमानान्पश्यामि । यो रुद्रो अग्नौ यो अप्सु य ओषधीषु यो रुद्रो विश्वा
> > भुवना विवेशैवमेव । अयमेवात्मान्तरात्मा
> > ब्रह्मज्योतिर्यस्मान्न मत्तोऽन्यः परः । अहमेव परो विश्वाधिकः ।
> >
> > [The above resembles the familiar portion from the Taittiriya
> > Mahanarayana Upanishad.]
> >
> > मामेव विदित्वामृतत्वमेति । तरति शोकम् । मामेव विदित्वा सांसृतिकीं रुजं
> > द्रावयति । तस्मादहं रुद्रो यः सर्वेषां
> > परमा गतिः । सोऽहं सर्वाकारः ।
> >
> > यतो वा इमानि भूतानि जायन्ते । येन जातानि जीवन्ति ।
> > यत्प्रयन्त्यभिसंविशन्ति । तं मामेव विदित्वोपासीत ।
> > भूतेभिर्देवेभिरभिष्टुतोऽहमेव । भीषास्माद्वातः
> > पवते । भीषोदेति सूर्यः । भीषास्मादग्निश्चेन्द्रश्च । सोमोऽत एव योऽहं
> > सर्वेषामधिष्ठाता सर्वेषां च भूतानां पालकः । सोऽहं पृथिवी । सोऽहमापः ।
> > सोऽहं तेजः । सोऽहं वायुः ।
> > सोऽहं कालः । सोऽहं दिशः । सोऽहमात्मा । मयि सर्वं प्रतिष्ठितम् ।
> > ब्रह्मविदाप्नोति परम् । ब्रह्मा शिवो मे अस्तु सदाशिवोम् ।
> >
> > The above portion recalls to mind the familiar Taittiriyopanishad
> > teaching that the entire creation has for its source Brahman.
> >
> > All the cosmic forces function under the supreme stewardship of Brahman.
> >
> > तत्र पूर्वस्यं दिशि ब्रह्मा कृताञ्जलिरहर्निशं मामुपास्ते ।
> > दक्षिणस्यां दिशि विष्णुः कृत्वैव मूर्धाञ्जलिं मामुपास्ते ।
> > प्रतीच्यामिन्द्रः
> > सन्नताङ्ग उपास्ते । [Brahma, Vishnu, Indra, etc. are meditating upon
> > Shiva, with various postures signifying obeisance.]
> >
> > यं ब्रह्मा नावपश्यति । यं विष्णुर्नावपश्यति । यमिन्द्राग्नौ
> > नावपश्येताम् । यं वरुणादयो नावपश्यन्ति ।
> >
> > [Brahma, Vishnu, Indra, Agni, Varuna, are all unable to comprehend
> Shiva.]
> >
> > That Shiva is beyond comprehension has been elaborately stated in the
> > form of the famous 'Lingodbhava' in various
> > Puranas. The Mahabharata too has stated this, in the words of Krishna
> > to Arjuna as:
> >
> > अप्रमेयप्रभावं तं देवदेवमुमापतिम्। नमस्व देवं प्रयतो विश्वेशं हरमक्षयम्
> ।।
> >
> > Shiva's glory is beyond comprehension, Arjuna, purifying yourself, bow
> > to that Devadeva, Umapati, the Lord
> >
> > of the Universe, Hara, the Imperishable.
> >
> > The particular episode is of Brahma and Vishnu taking the form of a
> > swan and a boar trying in vain to find the
> >
> > origin and end of Shiva.
> >
> > The Bhasmajabalopanishad has statements that is familiar to many as
> > found in the Taittiriya aranyaka,
> >
> > Upanishads. Brahmavidya is the ultimate purport of this Upanishad
> > through the medium of a conversation.
> >
> > The सोमः पवते mantra is annotated also in the 'sanatkumara samhita
> > where Vishnu instructs Prabhakara:
> >
> > मतीनाञ्च दिवःपृथ्व्या वह्नेः सूर्यस्य वज्रिणः ।
> >
> > साक्षादपि च विष्णोश्च सोमो जनयितेश्वरः ॥
> >
> > Brahmandapurana:
> >
> > द्यावाप्थिव्योरिन्द्राग्न्योर्विष्णोर्धातुर्यमस्य च ।
> >
> > वरुणस्य शशांकस्य जनिता परमेश्वरः ॥
> >
> > Kurmapurana also has this theme.
> >
> > Vedantins do not subscribe to the unvedic concept of classification of
> > puranas and vedas as sattvik, etc. Shankara
> >
> > has cited from the Shiva purana in the Vishnu sahasra nama bhashya to
> > give the meaning for the name
> >
> > 'Rudra' as 'Shivah parama kaaranam', Shiva is the Supreme Cause. Sri
> > Vishveshvara Saraswati, in his
> >
> > yati dharma sangraha has cited from the Kurma purana, all for bringing
> > out the Supremacy of Shiva, as the
> >
> > goal of sannyasins, to be meditated upon. He has also cited from the
> > Shiva purana. Also, like Shankara, he has
> >
> > cited from the Katharudropanishad which has Shiva as the creator and
> > Vishnu as a superior jiva. The Bhasmajabalopanishad, like the
> >
> > Atharvashira and Atharvashikha upanishads shows Shiva as the source of
> > the Trimurtis.
> >
> >
> > Om Tat Sat
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