[Advaita-l] Shaivism and Vedic Hinduism

[V Subrahmanian]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Siva Senani Nori via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> What about those Brahmins who have saalagraama?
> यथान्तरं न पश्यामि तथा मे स्वस्तिरायुषी
>

The above idea is emphasized in the Mahabharata by Arjuna, in the
Harivamsha by Brahmā and in the Skandopaniṣad where the exact lines that
are chanted during sandhyavandanam are found. The Telugu Sandhyavandana
book printed over 110 years ago also contains these verses.

Shankara has also cited the verses bearing the Hari-Hara aikya in the VSN
bhashya beginning.

What is of interest is that these verses are inimical to the doctrine of
non-advaitins and hence these are dubbed 'tāmasa' or interpolations by
them!!

regards
vs

>
> Regards
> N Siva Senani
>
>   On Thu, 5 Jan, 2017 at 11:05 p.m., Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l<
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:   Namaste
>
> How is it possible to say Shaivism is different from Brahminical
> religion when Satarudriya is from Vedas only? It is a useless
> argument.
>
> As a matter of fact in Gujarat and other places Vaishnavas are not
> considered Brahmins. Only Shiva worshippers are Brahmins. Well known
> fact is Brahmins must worship Siva and Kshatriyas Vishnu. Vaishyas are
> Devi Upasakas and Sudras have to worship Ganesha.
>
> In Pooja and other matters Vaidika and Agama methods are combined.
> This is the way it is today. Nobody in Brahmin tradition is doing pure
> 100% Vaidika or 100% Agama worship. Non Brahmins must not do Vaidika
> worship but always Agama or Puranokta worship only. Ladies also can do
> Puranokta worship with Pauranika Mantras. They should not say Gayatri
> Mantras and Vedic Mantras like some ladies are doing. It is wrong.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Santosh Rao via Advaita-l
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Namaskara,
> >
> > Is there a difference between "vaidika dharma" and the Shaiva sects?
> >
> > From some reading it seems the prevalent academic opinion is that
> Shaivism
> > and Shiva worship in general was largely separate from the Brahminical
> > religion for a large period of history before some coalescing between the
> > two occurred. Also, while Vaishnavism seems to be heavily tied into this
> > "Brahmanism," Shaivism seems to be less so. Is there a reason for this,
> or
> > is there a discrepancy between tradition and the academic view?
> >
> > Also, how does the Smarta tradition view the Shaiva agamas? Are they
> > accepted as authoritative at all? Is there a general view of Shaivas
> > regarding Vedas and Upanishads, Puranas, etc; or does it vary from sect
> to
> > sect? Are there any Shaiva sects that could correctly be labelled as
> > "non-vedic?"
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Santosh
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>
> -Venkatesh
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