[Advaita-l] Fwd: A question on PariNAma and vivarta

[H S Chandramouli]

Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji and Sri Venkatraghavan Ji,



Reg  << The question here is limited in determining the scope of
vAcArambhaNa
shruti >>,



Sri Sadananda Ji also maintains that since the clay/pot illustration forms
part of this shruti it represents vivarta and not parinama. According to
him while milk-curd illustration would be an example for parinama, clay-pot
is for vivarta only, for reasons already given by him. One of these being
that milk-curd transformation is irreversible whereas clay-pot is a
reversible transformation.



We can refer to the Chandogya Upanishad statement itself at 6-4-1 to 6-4-3.



यदग्ने रोहितꣳ रूपं तेजसस्तद्रूपं यच्छुक्लं तदपां यत्कृष्णं
तदन्नस्यापागादग्नेरग्नित्वं वाचारम्भणं विकारो नामधेयं त्रीणि रूपाणीत्येव
सत्यम् ॥ १ ॥



यदादित्यस्य रोहितꣳ रूपं तेजसस्तद्रूपं यच्छुक्लं तदपां यत्कृष्णं
तदन्नस्यापागादादित्यादादित्यत्वं वाचारम्भणं विकारो नामधेयं त्रीणि
रूपाणीत्येव सत्यम् ॥ २ ॥



यच्चन्द्रमसो रोहितꣳ रूपं तेजसस्तद्रूपं यच्छुक्लं तदपां यत्कृष्णं
तदन्नस्यापागाच्चान्द्राच्चन्द्रत्वं  त्रीणि रूपाणीत्येव सत्यम् ॥ ३ ॥



(yadagne rohitaꣳ rUpaM tejasastadrUpaM yachChuklaM tadapAM yatkRRiShNaM
tadannasyApAgAdagneragnitvaM vAchArambhaNaM vikAro nAmadheyaM trINi
rUpANItyeva satyam || 1 ||



adAdityasya rohitaꣳ rUpaM tejasastadrUpaM yachChuklaM tadapAM yatkRRiShNaM
tadannasyApAgAdAdityAdAdityatvaM vAchArambhaNaM vikAro nAmadheyaM trINi
rUpANItyeva satyam || 2 ||



yachchandramaso rohitaꣳ rUpaM tejasastadrUpaM yachChuklaM tadapAM
yatkRRiShNaM tadannasyApAgAchchAndrAchchandratvaM vAchArambhaNaM vikAro
nAmadheyaM trINi rUpANItyeva satyam || 3 ||



These present how creation is effected  through the process of तृवृत्करण
(tRRivRRitkaraNa ).  This is clearly analogous to milk-curd illustration as
regards irreversible nature of transformation. But the Upanishad itself
states here that it is in accordance with the वाचारम्भणं विकारो नामधेयं
(vAchArambhaNaM vikAro nAmadheyaM ) statement.  Since Sri Sadananda Ji is
accepting the milk-curd illustration to represent parinama, what more
authority is needed to confirm that वाचारम्भणं विकारो नामधेयं
(vAchArambhaNaM vikAro nAmadheyaM ) statement  represents parinama and not
vivarta.



Regards