[Advaita-l] A question on PariNAma and vivarta

[H S Chandramouli]

I may perhaps add for clarity that gold bar also is another manifest form
of gold, just as chain/bangle/ring are. The transformation is not from bar
to ornament, but from one manifest form (bar) of unmanifest gold  into
another manifest form (chain/bangle/ring) of unmanifest gold.



Regards

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 2:58 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sri Sadananda Ji,
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> I had pointed out earlier also in response to one of your posts that
> transformation in respect of gold ornaments is one of parinama while that
> in case of respect of rope-serpent is one of vivarta. But you did not agree
> and so I left it at that. Now that the question has been posed by you
> again, I reiterate my earlier position.
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> स्वरूपपरित्यागेन रूपान्तरापत्तिः परिणामः (svarUpaparityAgena
> rUpAntarApattiH pariNAmaH ) Parinama is transformation which involves
> change of swarupa.
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> स्वरूप अपरित्यागेन रूपान्तरापत्तिः विवर्तः (svarUpa aparityAgena
> rUpAntarApattiH vivartaH)  Vivarta is transformation without involving  change
> of swarupa.
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> In the case of gold and ornaments, unmaniest gold (gold in its kArana
> swarupa) undergoes transformation into various manifest forms as chain,
> ring, bangle etc (kArya swarupa). When it manifests as chain/bangle/ring
> etc gold is no longer available in its unmanifest form. Hence it is an
> illustration for parinama.Transformation is of gold only and not of
> chain/bangle/ring.   There is no difference in ontological status as
> between gold and ornaments.
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> In the case of rope-serpent, rope continues to exist in its own swarupa as
> rope even as it appears as transformed to rope-serpent. Hence it is an
> illustration for vivarta. There is a difference in ontological status as
> between rope and rope-serpent. Rope is vyAvahArika while rope-serpent is
> prAtibhAsika.
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> Regards
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