[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: shankara speaking on behalf of or speaking to ??

[H S Chandramouli]

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> Namaste Sri Bhaskar Ji,
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> Reg  << In short prArabdha karma phala is neither enjoyment nor
> experience when it is actually happening to the jnAni. >>,
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> That is right. That is what I meant. I did not get a better word than
> “experiencing” to state it. The word “happening” used by you perhaps
> conveys my understanding better. Only with one proviso. The jnani may
> either “experience” it or allow it to just “happen” without “experience” of
> the prarabdha karma phala at his will.
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> Reg << That means on the prArabdha karma phala a jnAni has the ‘control’
> i.e he may enjoy, may not enjoy.  Then it is not an  arrow which has
> already left the bow on which shooter does not have any control !! >>,
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> prarabdha karma phala ensures “happening” of the phala much like the arrow
> illustration, and the jnani has no control over it. But the jnani does have
> control or choice over “experience” of the same as explained above.
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> I think this answers the first four paras of your post.
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> Reg  << Kindly elaborate this statement bit more. >>,
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> The same topic was discussed extensively fairly recently, in which you had
> also participated I think,  wherein I had pointed out two fallouts for
> Brahmavidya, namely liberation from future births and Establishment in
> Brahmananda in this birth itself. I think you were not in agreement with
> the same. You may please refer to the thread itself for details to avoid
> repetition here. Suffice it to say that in my understanding the first
>  fallout mentioned above is applicable to all jnanis irrespective of their
> actions after attainment of jnana, while for the second fallout further
> sadhanas are called for even after attainment of jnana. But it is not
> considered “prasankhyAna”.
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> Regards
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